British Columbia DSM
May 23, 2012, 11:59:50 AM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
News:
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register  
Pages: [1] 2 3 ... 9
  Print  
Author Topic: miss fire and won't start .  (Read 1956 times)
Constantin Morosan
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 912


95 Eclipse turbo


« on: January 02, 2010, 01:45:08 AM »

Well i got abit of a problem here .

my 2g Eclipse wont start no more the engine is a 4g63 turbo ..
the ignition and spark gradualy   start failing piston by piston i was down to 3 then  2 and now only one seams to be firing when it turns  over to start there is no Spark  at all in 3 of the 4 cylinder wich makes me think of an electrical problem .. heres the list of things i have changed thinking it may help with out success  , spark plug and wires , coils , tansistor/egnition module , and Crank scensor .. I am running out of  ideas of what could be wrong with it , John  told me to  do a compresion test and so i will do  when i get  a tester ,

im throwing that out there and see if anyone else had a similar issue and point me  the right direction to get my baby back on the road .

cheers and thank you .
Logged

Help us Obi John Kenobi you're our only hope ..

Obi-John Kenobi? 

OMG.
Rob Armstrong
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1743



« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2010, 01:57:11 AM »

do you have a 7 or 6 bolt? do you have a cam angle sensor? how bout a code reader... try scanning it and see what codes you have.
Logged

98 Talon Tsi AWD
Kills bugs.....Fast
Constantin Morosan
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 912


95 Eclipse turbo


« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2010, 02:17:32 AM »

i haven o clue if its a 6 or 7  bolt  i know it has been swap ..  i am not that  knowing when it comes to this , but willing to learn . as for the cam angle sensor did get  to check it if been flying blind and replacing parts for a few weeks now . not the smartes an cheapes way to  do it . Roll Eyes

whats a easy way to identify of its a 6 or  7 bolt ?   

as for the cod reader i don't have one or dont know really where to go in chilliwack to get it  done and its hard to since the car is not running at all .
Logged

Help us Obi John Kenobi you're our only hope ..

Obi-John Kenobi? 

OMG.
Richard Clark
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1772



« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2010, 02:32:30 AM »

 

as for the cod reader i don't have one or dont know really where to go in chilliwack to get it  done and its hard to since the car is not running at all .

Go to canadian tire, buy a code reader, read your codes, return the code reader.
Logged
Constantin Morosan
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 912


95 Eclipse turbo


« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2010, 02:34:34 AM »

 

as for the cod reader i don't have one or dont know really where to go in chilliwack to get it  done and its hard to since the car is not running at all .

Go to canadian tire, buy a code reader, read your codes, return the code reader.

you sir are a genius .... !!  THANK YOU !   Grin
Logged

Help us Obi John Kenobi you're our only hope ..

Obi-John Kenobi? 

OMG.
John Hartman
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 16854



« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2010, 01:04:25 PM »

they are not that much money and if you have an OBD2 car of any kind in North America, you may as well keep it.  Reading 1 code(or at the most 2) it will pay for itself.

Also, where is the car at right now?

I MAY be able to swing by and have a quick look.
Logged

91 Eagle Talon TSi 5spd awd.  quickest and fastest pump gas 14b in BC?  now -12/Tial equipped
91 Eagle 2000GTX 5spd awd.  great handling 87octane daily driver. Compomotive, exhaust, cams.
86 Merkur XR4Ti 5spd, rwd, turbo, 91,381km.  Original paint, heated leather. intercooled, big VAM
06 Mazdaspeed6 6spd awd, DISI turbo, heated leather HIDs etc, bone stock,203awhp/238tq
Shane Hornstein
Guest
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2010, 03:51:15 PM »

sounds exactly exactly like what happened to me when my cam angle sensor went
Logged
Jason Harwood
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 2086



« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2010, 06:58:13 PM »

I have a code reader you can use.
Also, have you tested your igniter
Logged

88' MX6 Turbo - 14.2 @ 97.51MPH
94' MX6 V6 - 13.9 @ 96.7MPH
93' Civic Turbo - 14.7 @ 90MPH (bad tune)
90' Civic SI - Auto-X Machine
97' Eclipse GSX 13.6 @ 105MPH
96' Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo
97' Acura EL 14.5 @ 96.71MPH
'02 Lexus IS300 15.125 @ 91MPH
Brandon Kuczynski
Jr. Member
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 66



« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2010, 11:02:35 PM »

i recently had the same problem with my car,  it ended up being my computer, it was an aem ecu i had to send it in and pay $400 to get it fixed, not sure if its the same problem but u never know
Logged

1997 Eagle Talon Tsi AWD
John Hartman
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 16854



« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2010, 01:43:19 AM »

says he changed the transistor/ign module, so I am assuming thats the same as the ignitor?
Logged

91 Eagle Talon TSi 5spd awd.  quickest and fastest pump gas 14b in BC?  now -12/Tial equipped
91 Eagle 2000GTX 5spd awd.  great handling 87octane daily driver. Compomotive, exhaust, cams.
86 Merkur XR4Ti 5spd, rwd, turbo, 91,381km.  Original paint, heated leather. intercooled, big VAM
06 Mazdaspeed6 6spd awd, DISI turbo, heated leather HIDs etc, bone stock,203awhp/238tq
Rob Armstrong
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1743



« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2010, 01:45:16 AM »

make sure the cam angle sensor is instaled correctly. It could be 180 degrees out
Logged

98 Talon Tsi AWD
Kills bugs.....Fast
John Hartman
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 16854



« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2010, 02:07:35 AM »

that will USUALLY only cause a slight barely noticable misfire.  many people have driven around for months and years with it 180 out.

Plus his used to run good, and just started to go like it is, without him taking the CAS out of the car.
Logged

91 Eagle Talon TSi 5spd awd.  quickest and fastest pump gas 14b in BC?  now -12/Tial equipped
91 Eagle 2000GTX 5spd awd.  great handling 87octane daily driver. Compomotive, exhaust, cams.
86 Merkur XR4Ti 5spd, rwd, turbo, 91,381km.  Original paint, heated leather. intercooled, big VAM
06 Mazdaspeed6 6spd awd, DISI turbo, heated leather HIDs etc, bone stock,203awhp/238tq
Rob Armstrong
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1743



« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2010, 02:10:59 AM »

sorry thought he allready replaced it. I have never run with it 180 out so I wouldn't know how it would affect the car, but for the 2 easily acessable bolts it would have been a easy check. Just tossing ideas.
Logged

98 Talon Tsi AWD
Kills bugs.....Fast
Constantin Morosan
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 912


95 Eclipse turbo


« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2010, 01:41:01 AM »

sorry thought he allready replaced it. I have never run with it 180 out so I wouldn't know how it would affect the car, but for the 2 easily acessable bolts it would have been a easy check. Just tossing ideas.


 ideas is what i want Rob Cheesy  i am short of them and scratching my head on what is up  with it ...
Logged

Help us Obi John Kenobi you're our only hope ..

Obi-John Kenobi? 

OMG.
Mike Jamieson
Jr. Member
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 89



« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2010, 12:38:20 AM »

Check b+ to PCM with a test light for voltage. Use a test lamp that has 1 amp or more of current draw to assure that the wiring is capable of good current flow. Some of the newer test lights only have a current draw of 50 milliamps or less. If your test lamp has less than one amp of current draw, then a turnsignal bulb will make a good substitute.
Logged

1st Talon 1995 TSI AWD, 14b. Sold
@&*%#@ mickey mousers.
Pages: [1] 2 3 ... 9
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.16 | SMF © 2011, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!