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andrew volcz
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« on: November 05, 2010, 05:19:23 PM »

we just finished dyno tuning a Chel's 2.3L 2g with some great results... and  judging by the grin on his face when he herd the new numbers, im sure itll be no time before he's arrested and car impounded with the new speeding laws in full effect. 

Chel had us tune his car a few weeks ago resulting in approx 330awhp @ 25psi with meth. we had hit a peak of 350awhp but after smoothening things out, we settled on 330awhp. 

TODAY - the cams were swapped out in favor of some FP 4R I/E Cams along with some FP Beehive valve spring set.  cam timing remained stock and the cat was removed.  boost and meth remained the same.  we hit a peak of 470awhp but settled at 460awhpAPPROX 120+ AWHP GAIN!
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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2010, 06:08:51 PM »

impressive Smiley


what turbo? boost level?
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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2010, 06:21:24 PM »

as mentioned ... 25psi

Precision HP 6262 .63ar Billet turbo
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2010, 07:55:44 PM »

Ahha nice I wonder what mine will do.
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no fuel, rpm, or boost log. "It can't be done" Tune by luck! Lol

I don't get upset but when someone talks like they know everything and when you put a statement like this turbo spools at this rpm your kidding yourself on a car making 600-1100whp. It can't be done.
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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2010, 09:46:11 PM »

whats the idle like???  rough! loud
How is the "spool_up" ?
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« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2010, 02:03:38 AM »

idle seemed fine to me on the few start up i saw ... the overall pulls on the dyno sounded mean and fairly decent spool.  the 6262 is comparable to a gt35 turbo but with a tad better spool from the billet wheel.  the overall duration of the FP cams is nothing too crazy, but well overall design with their lift, overlap, rap rate, ect.

maybe chel can report on this thread 
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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2010, 10:13:53 AM »


TODAY - the cams were swapped out in favor of some FP 4R I/E Cams along with some FP Beehive valve spring set.  cam timing remained stock and the cat was removed.  boost and meth remained the same.  we hit a peak of 470awhp but settled at 460awhp.  APPROX 120+ AWHP GAIN!

Was the original cams stock or aftermarket?
Any guess how much better than my 101300 Comp cam?
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Built motor ,AEM EMS, Arc2 cdi 650cc&1000cc Staged injectors Billet S366 T4,top mount manifold. 530 AWHP street boost 666 AWHP race boost (RG Dyno 2010). Coilovers
90 TSI (gone), 95 TSI 5 spd sold, 93 Mazda 5sp(sold), 97 Acura 5spd Vtec
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« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2010, 10:23:58 AM »

with the displacement increase and big turbo, yes you need bumpsticks to go with it  Smiley

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« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2010, 06:05:38 PM »


TODAY - the cams were swapped out in favor of some FP 4R I/E Cams along with some FP Beehive valve spring set.  cam timing remained stock and the cat was removed.  boost and meth remained the same.  we hit a peak of 470awhp but settled at 460awhp.  APPROX 120+ AWHP GAIN!

Was the original cams stock or aftermarket?
Any guess how much better than my 101300 Comp cam?

i believe they were Colt regrinds that Chel had in there before.

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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2010, 08:29:29 PM »

yea those stage 1 cams aren't gonna cut it for that engine/turbo combo.
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91 Eagle 2000GTX 5spd awd.  great handling 87octane daily driver. Compomotive, exhaust, cams.
86 Merkur XR4Ti 5spd, rwd, turbo, 91,381km.  Original paint, heated leather. intercooled, big VAM
06 Mazdaspeed6 6spd awd, DISI turbo, heated leather HIDs etc, bone stock,203awhp/238tq
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« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2010, 10:23:53 PM »

Impressive!
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« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2010, 09:07:10 PM »

Nice work!!
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« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2010, 02:42:39 AM »

impressive Smiley


what turbo? boost level?
that poor cat being forced to DJ like that lol
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« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2010, 03:00:39 AM »

I heard Chel's 4R cams at the Kruise for Kids.. 
Lumpy at 900 rpm but nice pulsing strong idle (with a punch) at 1000 rpm..
Not too loud either..
Smoother than the BC 280 cams.
My comp cams 101300 sounds close to stock.
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Built motor ,AEM EMS, Arc2 cdi 650cc&1000cc Staged injectors Billet S366 T4,top mount manifold. 530 AWHP street boost 666 AWHP race boost (RG Dyno 2010). Coilovers
90 TSI (gone), 95 TSI 5 spd sold, 93 Mazda 5sp(sold), 97 Acura 5spd Vtec
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« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2010, 11:39:23 AM »

So the only thing you guys changed are the cams?  If so those are really good gains
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