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daniel Dee
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« on: November 21, 2010, 04:54:53 PM »

http://www.xforce.com.au/cars/view_car/29
Anybody know anybody has one installed..
I think I heard one in a NSX at RG last year.

I would really like to drive my car more instead of triggering everybody's car alarm while I drive.
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« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2010, 10:54:42 PM »

why not just get a electric cutout?

For ripping or race mode have it open so it dumps the exhuast shortly after the turbo....  then with the push of a button you can re-route the exhuast into the "quiet" exhuast system you have.
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« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2010, 01:12:11 AM »

+1 on Bretts post.  I will be doing this on the Mazda.  Cobb or Corksport 3" downpipe with cat, then 3" cutout, then to stock exhaust.  Cutout triggered by boost pressure and RPM.
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« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2010, 02:11:41 AM »

http://www.hellbent-performance.com/xforce_varex

The only one in Canada ......anybody knows anything about this company
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« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2010, 03:22:36 AM »

There are several of these systems as factory issue now.

The one most seem to forget is our own cousin, the 3Si.
http://www.3si.org/wiki/index.php/Image:ActiveExhaustDiagram.jpg

I'd simply go with a better muffler, add a resonator and a cat. Failing that, definitely consider a cutout with the block running through a stockish muffler and 2" pipe or something similar.

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« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2010, 01:57:05 PM »

I thought of putting one of these on my car earlier this year, but poses a problem for those running Speed Density.
It would require two separate tunes on your emulator which is no problem, but everytime you want to switch muffler on or off, you have to pull over and upload the correct VE map from your laptop...Unless you have a passenger doing it for you on-the-fly.  However, good if you just want to switch it open at the track and have a quiet car for a DD.  That might work for me too...hmmmm...
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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2010, 02:47:19 AM »

hrrmm,  i think you could just tune it with the cutout open... and max boost... 

it should still run fine with the normal exhuast connected with the cut out closed and the lower boost..  as long as you tune the off WOT driveablitly i doubt you would have any major issues.
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« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2010, 02:08:33 PM »

Still new to this SD thing and thought I read that somewhere.
But what you said sounds right too...
Thanks Brett.
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« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2010, 11:21:42 AM »

+1 on Bretts.  The closed quiet exhuast will take the efficiency down, but as long as you have that area tuned well(part throttle, lower rpm with the cutout open, WOT closed) it will be fine.
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91 Eagle Talon TSi 5spd awd.  quickest and fastest pump gas 14b in BC?  now -12/Tial equipped
91 Eagle 2000GTX 5spd awd.  great handling 87octane daily driver. Compomotive, exhaust, cams.
86 Merkur XR4Ti 5spd, rwd, turbo, 91,381km.  Original paint, heated leather. intercooled, big VAM
06 Mazdaspeed6 6spd awd, DISI turbo, heated leather HIDs etc, bone stock,203awhp/238tq
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« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2011, 05:10:09 AM »

MAP (USA) is selling Varex and has them on sale and free shipping too.

http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?llr=zflenscab&v=0012kO3uRH1XjBdFZAqvgzj3ZNhOYZnSWZ5K2k61tPtf5W3RsbysWYy0EboWaVIZm6hLDk7QZ38ITjawsH3Iut2EQOvvCyptGn6QZFEdi59On4%3D

Update: I ordered the 3.5 inch inlet one.
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Built motor ,AEM EMS, Arc2 cdi 650cc&1000cc Staged injectors Billet S366 T4,top mount manifold. 530 AWHP street boost 666 AWHP race boost (RG Dyno 2010). Coilovers
90 TSI (gone), 95 TSI 5 spd sold, 93 Mazda 5sp(sold), 97 Acura 5spd Vtec
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« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2012, 03:34:54 AM »

Update....Varex muffler installed (by evolution)...
The 3.5 inch muffler installed onto my 3 inch exhaust..
You have to hear it in person to believe it.
the whole back half of my car is now silent.....
the valve mech is a power window unit (overkill) so I don't expect mechanical issues.
I just hope the muffler does not rust out..

I didn't realize however how much noise came from the engine compartment .
I will work on insulating the firewall and front cockpit from engine operating noise.

this is by far the quietest performance muffler I ever heard.
So much more enjoyable to drive.
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92 AWD TSI 5spd
Built motor ,AEM EMS, Arc2 cdi 650cc&1000cc Staged injectors Billet S366 T4,top mount manifold. 530 AWHP street boost 666 AWHP race boost (RG Dyno 2010). Coilovers
90 TSI (gone), 95 TSI 5 spd sold, 93 Mazda 5sp(sold), 97 Acura 5spd Vtec
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« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2012, 08:52:32 PM »

how does it drive with the flap closed?  IE quiet.

does it dyno well compared to your other one?
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91 Eagle Talon TSi 5spd awd.  quickest and fastest pump gas 14b in BC?  now -12/Tial equipped
91 Eagle 2000GTX 5spd awd.  great handling 87octane daily driver. Compomotive, exhaust, cams.
86 Merkur XR4Ti 5spd, rwd, turbo, 91,381km.  Original paint, heated leather. intercooled, big VAM
06 Mazdaspeed6 6spd awd, DISI turbo, heated leather HIDs etc, bone stock,203awhp/238tq
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« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2012, 10:03:38 AM »

how does it drive with the flap closed?  IE quiet.

does it dyno well compared to your other one?

Dyno testing will be done late spring (after cam install etec). internal piping when valve is open measures just under 3.5 inches.
With flap closed the other passage outlet appears to be 2 inch (I didn't measure it) and feeds back into the outlet.
In any case the piping is larger than my 3 inch muffler.
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92 AWD TSI 5spd
Built motor ,AEM EMS, Arc2 cdi 650cc&1000cc Staged injectors Billet S366 T4,top mount manifold. 530 AWHP street boost 666 AWHP race boost (RG Dyno 2010). Coilovers
90 TSI (gone), 95 TSI 5 spd sold, 93 Mazda 5sp(sold), 97 Acura 5spd Vtec
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« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2012, 12:15:39 AM »

Update!!!
The valve stopped working....
Turned out to be the control module..
I wired it for manual control anyway.

XFORCE , Australia sent me a control module with new remote and all the wiring. 
So I have lots of spare parts now.

If my wiring is right the remote should work with the manual control too.
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92 AWD TSI 5spd
Built motor ,AEM EMS, Arc2 cdi 650cc&1000cc Staged injectors Billet S366 T4,top mount manifold. 530 AWHP street boost 666 AWHP race boost (RG Dyno 2010). Coilovers
90 TSI (gone), 95 TSI 5 spd sold, 93 Mazda 5sp(sold), 97 Acura 5spd Vtec
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