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Why can't they bring this back? 
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Brett Haviland
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« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2011, 03:13:47 PM » |
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Gas prices, emissions....
Poor muscle cars!
Nice lookin ride tho
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I like Colts. Turbo Colts.
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Amir Ali
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« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2011, 04:04:57 PM » |
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my all time favourite muscle car with top down.
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kevin derhouson
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« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2011, 07:34:03 PM » |
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i'd roll with eleanor stang or not. 
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97 tsi: e316g SD/Meth/cams 301awhp/273tq @ 24psi on the RG mustang dyno
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Jordan Kruger
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« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2011, 07:38:19 PM » |
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it has nothing to do with emissions and crap if you're referring you the bodystyle. The thing that has changed is most vehicles are made with a high percentage of plastic now. The beautiful panels on and muscle car are well crafted pieces of metal with a hair of bondo in some cases. Now panels are plastic and cheap shit. And they've even managed to throw a modern look into cars. I have never understood the idea behind the "modern" look. Next time youre driving around. look at how most of the fender flares are designed. they have a square edge lining the wheel well opening. It looks rediculous. Ever muscle car had a beautiful lip on their fenders and an aggressive low hood to fender distance. I cant stand how tall the new challengers are. Drop that shit. not to the ground, but atleast so it doesnt look like a caravan. 
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337awhp. ---> 400awhp ? =)
Replacing parts since early 2010.
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Matt VanDerZwaag
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« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2011, 09:57:19 PM » |
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Challengers look effin huge when you see them on the road! The overall cabin height is massive as well as it being fairly high off the ground... modern cars just seem so concerned with the driver's comfort and a spacious interior  .
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John Hartman
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« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2011, 10:16:59 PM » |
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yep, they need to use the basics of the Challenger and make it smaller, tighter etc and make a new Cuda. 100%
I do agree tho, retro modern is cool.
I used to talk about that back in the 80s and everyone told me I was a dreamer. Apparently I was not the only one...
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91 Eagle Talon TSi 5spd awd. quickest and fastest pump gas 14b in BC? now -12/Tial equipped 91 Eagle 2000GTX 5spd awd. great handling 87octane daily driver. Compomotive, exhaust, cams. 86 Merkur XR4Ti 5spd, rwd, turbo, 91,381km. Original paint, heated leather. intercooled, big VAM 06 Mazdaspeed6 6spd awd, DISI turbo, heated leather HIDs etc, bone stock,203awhp/238tq
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Josh Royle
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« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2011, 11:05:46 PM » |
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elinor is one of the nicest cars...
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Zach Holt
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« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2011, 03:12:38 AM » |
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those are tanks.
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no fuel, rpm, or boost log. "It can't be done" Tune by luck! Lol I don't get upset but when someone talks like they know everything and when you put a statement like this turbo spools at this rpm your kidding yourself on a car making 600-1100whp. It can't be done.
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Mike Schmid
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« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2011, 11:37:03 AM » |
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I believe a lot of the problem now is not the car makers and designers but rather the rules and regulation put in place by the government regarding side impact safety, crash testing certification and the like. I remember reading about one newer car, I think perhaps a Corvette with an options package, the designers had wanted to swap in some more supportive seats but couldn't because they would have had to crash test a bunch of cars to re-certify the car with the new seats and they didn't have the budget to do that.
I'm pretty sure it's side impact requirements that keep the belt-line soooo high on the Charger/300M, and then in turn the Challenger. The Challenger had to be built off that platform because it is so expensive to qualify and come up with a new platform for a low volume car like the Challenger. Why do you think it takes 3 years or so to get a facelift which is just headlights, taillights and bumpers on a new car? It's because of the required crash testing. It is certainly not because the designers and car companies have no desire to have a fresh look in the showroom every year like they did back in the 50s, 60s, and into the 70s.
The Crown Victoria is dead now too, it's a big 4 door but it's the last body on frame, rear drive, V8 car left. Gov't mandated stability control and new rollover standards mean it can't adapt so it's dead. Usher in the FWD unibody V6s...
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'92 TSi AWD AT - 180bhp '93 TSi AWD - 195bhp '90 Laser RS NT - *sold* '71 Camaro - *sold*
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« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2011, 12:59:20 PM » |
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my favorite of all time 
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Kristopher Rozon
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« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2011, 06:29:43 PM » |
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OK I'll play too  '66(?) Impala I'm on board with Jordan  '67 'bird (and the '68 Camaro, not the 69) And I like Elanor, yet prefer the Shelby KR
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Kristopher Rozon 2002 Audi allroad 2.7tt, stoptech 332 Ferodo 2500, yak rack, thule evolution 1600 1999 VW Jetta TDI - Germans take a stupid idea and refine it to where it works beautifully. Americans take a brillant idea and cheapen it until it sucks. Italians make it beautiful, but might not work. Brits make it ugly, and it might not work. Japanese copy what works.
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kevin derhouson
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« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2011, 07:10:04 PM » |
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all gorgeous cars  when i see guys parked w/ muscle cars and i pull up (in the talon) and start complementing them, they always seem shocked for some reason... just because you like jap muscle doesn't mean you can't appreciate american muscle either.
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John Hartman
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« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2011, 08:01:33 PM » |
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+1 Kevin.
Admire whatever is well done.
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91 Eagle Talon TSi 5spd awd. quickest and fastest pump gas 14b in BC? now -12/Tial equipped 91 Eagle 2000GTX 5spd awd. great handling 87octane daily driver. Compomotive, exhaust, cams. 86 Merkur XR4Ti 5spd, rwd, turbo, 91,381km. Original paint, heated leather. intercooled, big VAM 06 Mazdaspeed6 6spd awd, DISI turbo, heated leather HIDs etc, bone stock,203awhp/238tq
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Richard Steger
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« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2011, 09:16:56 PM » |
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Now, finding a guy rolling in some domestic v8 vintage muscle that can admire/appreciate a fast japanese car, that's rare... 
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