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[Anonymous]

So is it possible to run a 20g with stock injectors, and if so, how much boost could I run it with?

[Fraser Cassells]

Anything is possible, the question should be "what will blow up first?"  Having said that, I run my Frank3 with stock injectors, but at 14Psi and usually have a gallon or so of race gas in there.  The step by step build up to the 20G point has been covered ad nauseum in numerious Vfaqs.

[Troy Simkus]

Chris A. ran his 20g on stock everything i think, oh except maybe he had those stevetek fuel lines i think.

[Chao C. Yin]

Lowell told me that he used to run 109mph trap speed on stock spitters.

[Chris Andrews]

Just keep boost at 15 psi or less...  

If you are a creative DIY'r, with a bit of screwing around, you can use all the stock piping, and lines.....

For the longest time, I ran the 20G with everything stock, except K&n and muffler.  I didn't get full potential out of the turbo, and didn't need massive supporting mods.  

If you have a 3" turboback exhaust and UIC pipe, things will flow a lot more, and all of a sudden that turbo starts to work and then you need more fuel.   After I added the 3" turboback, I started overrunning the 1G maf, and at over 15 psi, things would get very lean.  Dangerously so....

So then I got the supporting mods.   Kind of a reverse upgrade path, but if you are sensible, you won't do any damage.

Actually, thats how I started.   Shortly after I got the car,  I realized the exhaust turbine housing had a huge crack in it, and figured I would replace it.   SO....thats how I got the 20G before ANY other supporting mods.   Do I  regret my upgrade path?   Not on your life.  :twisted:

Just remember a 20G flows quite a bit more than a big 16G.  Its worth the difference in price.....in my power-crazed mind, anyway....

[wally siu]

Anything is possible, the question should be "what will blow up first?"  Having said that, I run my Frank3 with stock injectors, but at 14Psi and usually have a gallon or so of race gas in there.  The step by step build up to the 20G point has been covered ad nauseum in numerious Vfaqs.

You are a rich man, running race gas everyday. :shock:

[Troy Simkus]

bah everyday my ass, so how many kms you put on this month fraser? 20? 25?

[Anonymous]

Im kind of with Chris on this one.  I got a bit of a wastegate problem, and my turbo has some boost leak, so the sane idea would be to get it fixed, but im just gonna grab a tial 35mm wastegate, and a 20g.  Only problem is that im a lil strapped for cash, and can't get bigger injectors and a SAFC.

[Chris Andrews]

- cost of installed 20G  =  $1200 (uh, don't quote me on that...)
 - the feeling you get blowing away other imports = priceless......   :laugh:


Its not BCDSM,  its an army of 20G equipped hondah killahs.... :uzi:


Oh, yeah,  I'm using an internal WG  (enlarged, though), and its been absolutely fabulous......

[Troy Simkus]

so how many 20gs (or bigger) do we have in the club now anyway?

lowell
chao
fraser
chris
merlin
ryan
dave b.w.
...?

[wally siu]

so how many 20gs (or bigger) do we have in the club now anyway?

lowell
chao
fraser
chris
merlin
ryan
dave b.w.
...?

i didnt know chao was running a 20g?

[Fraser Cassells]

Or bigger was the qualification  . My Frank3 would fit that description too.

[Fraser Cassells]

in the list, dave is listed as dave b.w, is that black wheels?? hahaha, funny how he is associated with his madmax car that way, I tend to say  "the dave brothers" as they usually come in pairs.

[Anonymous]

DAve Brothers ?..... Madmax sounds cool .  I made this list few months back you gotta had Farzan and Eddie at least. Think there is someone else too just can't think who.3 months left til showtime Fraser I know you can't wait either.

[Anonymous]

Ok, so im going through with it.  I'm gonna grab the 20g and possibly and external.  I will list my mods, u guys tell what psi i can run  

serverly hacked MAF
re-wired FP
2.25 UICP
95 headers
2 inch mandrel cat-back ultra flow muffler (don't ask me why, car had it when i bought it)
EGT and Boost gauge