Want another second in the 1/4 mile

[Aaron dusseault]

Here is the deal I have a 1992 tsi with
Big 16g ported with 10deg clip
walboro fuel pump
550 injectors
safc
vpc
95 exhaust man
95 o2 housing
supra sidemount intercooler
act 2600 clutch
hks 264 cams
full 3" exhaust and dp

What path do you guys think I should take? I dont have a shit load of cash to spend..

What turbo should I buy? What are these bullseye turbos I keep hearing about? should I just buy a 20g? Am I going to have to buy a tial wastegate? At 23psi my injectors were running almost full duty cycle.Can I get a larger prom chip for my vpc for bigger injectors.Guys I value your oppinions .Let em rip.

[Andrew Scott]

Nitrious?

GT30-13 and bigass injectors?

How much money is not that much?

[Aaron dusseault]

Has any body had any experience with sloyboy racing turbos :?:

[Mike Schmid]

Well power comes from fuel, and if you've already run out of fuel you're going to need more before you're gonna make any more power.  So you'll need some real injectors.  

As for a turbo, stay local and talk to Kinetic.  You won't have to deal with border hassles or tech/warranty problems with someone who's thousands of miles away and you'll be able to deal with knowledgeable people face to face.  I don't see why you'd go anywhere else.

[Mitch Delmer]

I suggest a Slowboy GT30r and some 720's.  Kinetic has that turbo and it is good for about 550hp.  Im putting one on a 97 eclipse as we speak so I will keep you posted on how it works out.

[Artem Goloubov]

Like menationed before GT30 Turbos you can't go wrong with ball bearing.

[Martin Raska]

Obvious question what is your current time?

That is obviously addressed in his signature.  :laugh:

[Aaron dusseault]

I think the slowboy turbos look great.I also deffinetly think supporting our own economy is also a good thing. I am a little wierded by the talk about not being able to get a larger chip for my vpc to run larger injectorsThus making it a $1000.00 piece of shit.

[Martin Raska]

For less than $1000 you could outfit your car with a standalone ecu to take over all engine control.

[KevinBuckham]

I might as well add my thoughts here too, besides my email to you.

My turbo choices to drop a whole second easily would be:
- FP Green (or a "50 trim" variant)
- FP Red (or a "60-1" trim variant)
Why pay double for a GT turbo?

Fuel Control:
- DSMLink
- AEM EMS

*EDIT*: Cams: HKS 272 or Comp 101200

Misc:
- FMIC
- Supra or Whinebro fuel pump
- Adjustable FPR
- 720+ cc/min injectors
- external gate w/ dump or custom piping to route back in

If you just want to be in the 11s, larger 20Gs would fit the bill nicely.

[Mike Schmid]

I forgot to mention Kinetic can get any of the turbos Slowboy carries.

[John Hartman]

I second the bigger injectors.

Add a front mount.  Doesn't have to be the huge one that most people use from Kinetic.  They make smaller ones too, but if you can afford it that big one is a monster.

Weight reduction is a huge factor as well.  Not sure how far along that path you are willing to go, but a CF hood, light battery, light wheels, and aluminum front and rear bumpers are a good start.  If you are willing to strip the interior, you can save alot of weight. Did you do a light flywheel when you put in the ACT?  Taller 1st gear in the tranny?

Are you traction limited yet?  If so, some stickier tires?

I suggest getting rid of the VPC if you aren't able to use it.

Get an Eprom with a good chip with stutter box and no lift to shift along with some good timing and fuel tweaks, and that along with the SAFC should be good.  Of course if you can afford it, get DSMLink.

Get a good adjustable fuel pressure regulator if you don't have it already.

If you had an Evo16g, I'd say leave that alone, but maybe with just the 16G, well you might want to go bigger.  And if you are going fmic, you might as well get the pipes built for the different turbo while you are at it.

also, what gas are you running?  91?  94?  C-16?  I bet you could run more boost on your setup.

Also you can try water injection, then I KNOW you can run more boost

I'm currently running 20psi on my 14b and Jason G is running over that on his.

Good luck and keep us posted.

[Aaron dusseault]

Guys I just got off the phone with Jarrod the sales manager at Buschur racing and he has a vpc chip for 660s and he figures that will be good for what I want. Now lets be honest will this be enough to get me to my mid 11 goal. Or will I need to go to bigger injectors and scrap the vpc all together and go dsm link. Personely I would like to keep my set up as is if i can.

[Andrew Scott]

My turbo choices to drop a whole second easily would be:
- FP Green (or a "50 trim" variant)
- FP Red (or a "60-1" trim variant)
Why pay double for a GT turbo?

Because without a ball bearing centre section your car will accelerate like a bag of dicks, unless you want to drag race ALL THE TIME.

[Robin Toor]

Guys I just got off the phone with Jarrod the sales manager at Buschur racing and he has a vpc chip for 660s and he figures that will be good for what I want. Now lets be honest will this be enough to get me to my mid 11 goal. Or will I need to go to bigger injectors and scrap the vpc all together and go dsm link. Personely I would like to keep my set up as is if i can.

Do you want high, mid, or low 11's? All of those options make a HUGE difference.

You are a good driver, pretty much as good as Lowell with the consistent 1.7 60 foots, so I say if you want high 11's, run the 20G turbo with 660cc injectors. Lowell went 11.8 @ 120 with this setup.

If you want mid to low 11's, you need a bigger turbo than a 20G, and bigger injectors than 660's. Lowell used a Frank 3 and 720's (I believe) to run the 11.4 @ 124.

Or, if you want to save your money, keep your evo 16G, put in some 660cc injectors, run 22-25psi, and practice your shifting and launching. evo16G turbos @ 22-25psi are known to run 11.7-11.9 in the 1/4 mile (As proved by Mitch Delmer).