Author Topic: 1G TSI vs NT rear calipers  (Read 3039 times)

Offline Matt Mann

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1G TSI vs NT rear calipers
« on: March 01, 2010, 08:53:31 am »

Does anyone know if there is any significant difference between the two first generation TEL? I need a rear caliper and will be buying a used one for the time being as mine is semi seized and likes to make noise when I brake=very annoying. I just need to know if they are compatible.
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Offline Jason Harwood

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Re: 1G TSI vs NT rear calipers
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2010, 09:08:50 am »
non turbo's have drum brakes?
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Offline Brett Haviland

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Re: 1G TSI vs NT rear calipers
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2010, 11:58:51 am »
nope no DSM's came with drums as far as i know.. (maybe 2G NT's do... not sure on that one)

I know for SURE that all 1G's came with rear disks, and they should all be compatible between each other...
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Offline Matt Mann

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Re: 1G TSI vs NT rear calipers
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2010, 02:30:20 pm »
Thanks so I should be good either way then.

2G NT came with rear discs too..
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Offline Jason Harwood

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Re: 1G TSI vs NT rear calipers
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2010, 02:54:43 pm »
Thanks so I should be good either way then.

2G NT came with rear discs too..
Really?
 im 99% sure My buddies talon has rear drums.
88' MX6 Turbo - 14.2 @ 97.51MPH
94' MX6 V6 - 13.9 @ 96.7MPH
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96' Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo
97' Acura EL 14.5 @ 98MPH
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Offline John Hartman

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Re: 1G TSI vs NT rear calipers
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2010, 05:23:34 pm »
the base model 1.8l cars can have drums back there, as well as non power steering.

MOST do have discs at all 4 corners tho.

As for if it fits, take your old one with you and compare them in your hands, using the MK1 eyeball.
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Offline Kristopher

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Re: 1G TSI vs NT rear calipers
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2010, 05:33:56 pm »
I bought a rebuild kit for my front and rear calipers (AWD though). I'd do that before putting on another used one.

Check CAPS, part numbers between the TSi FWD and NT are likely the same.
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Offline Matt Mann

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Re: 1G TSI vs NT rear calipers
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2010, 08:23:23 am »
well I will be driving my car to Jake Webber's Dad place so I will have with in that sense but obviously not off the car. He has a bunch of different parts cars so I can pick and choose hopefully. I'll snap some pics for comparison..

I bought a rebuild kit for my front and rear calipers (AWD though). I'd do that before putting on another used one.

Check CAPS, part numbers between the TSi FWD and NT are likely the same.

How much was the rebuild kit?
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Offline Kristopher

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Re: 1G TSI vs NT rear calipers
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2010, 01:19:23 pm »
Sorry, don't recall. I bought a ton of parts all at once.
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Offline Mike Meron

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Re: 1G TSI vs NT rear calipers
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2010, 07:15:44 pm »
2 Gnt's are the only rear drums john even the 1.8 1g's had discs ;)

Offline John Hartman

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Re: 1G TSI vs NT rear calipers
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2010, 07:31:50 pm »
ahh.

my old timey brain must be failing...
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Re: 1G TSI vs NT rear calipers
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2010, 08:58:31 am »
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/articles-suspension-brakes/347494-how-rebuild-front-brake-calipers.html#post151970223

Here you are sir

Thanks Dan this helps. I would assume that this works for the rears as well.

As for the rear drum discussions, not to be argumentative but the wifes 95 NT had rear discs its not the greatest pic but it clearly shows no rear drum. Maybe they changed it after 95s???




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Offline John Hartman

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Re: 1G TSI vs NT rear calipers
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2010, 06:05:05 pm »
Probably not a base model car.
91 Eagle Talon TSi 5spd awd.  GT-12, TriFlow Cams, 850s, Tial, JIC, Jackal, sticky rubber.
86 Merkur XR4Ti 5spd, rwd, turbo, 91,381km.  Original paint, heated leather. intercooled, big VAM, Full 3" exhaust, Cossie sway bar, 16" tires.
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Offline Ivan Skare

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Re: 1G TSI vs NT rear calipers
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2010, 09:23:06 pm »
Straight out of the shop manual, no 1G dsms had rear drums. Not even the 1.8's.
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