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GVRD - BC DSM Club => Back Yard => Topic started by: Jordan Kruger on January 11, 2011, 11:31:13 am

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Post by: Jordan Kruger on January 11, 2011, 11:31:13 am
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3713/4g63.jpg)
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Post by: kevin derhouson on January 12, 2011, 04:34:13 pm
why hello good looking (car) :p
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Post by: Michel Paiement on April 27, 2011, 11:12:23 pm
Is it turbocharged?
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Post by: Brandon Daum on April 28, 2011, 03:04:09 am
Am I crazy or do I see 2 bov
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Post by: Zach Holt on April 28, 2011, 02:09:13 pm
thats the coolest civic ive ever seen!
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Post by: Remi Raymond on April 28, 2011, 04:34:53 pm
thats the coolest civic ive ever seen!

Hey no making fun of my former ride, or i'll beat up your colt with my v-tak
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Post by: Brett Haviland on April 29, 2011, 01:01:37 pm
 You don't got no vtak remi,,,  go take your non vtak motor and go do what u do best.....getting 40 mpg...

 Leave the performance talk for the big boys... Lke someone with a si civic that actually has vtak biotch!!!
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Post by: Remi Raymond on April 29, 2011, 01:14:23 pm
You don't got no vtak remi,,,  go take your non vtak motor and go do what u do best.....getting 40 mpg...

 Leave the performance talk for the big boys... Lke someone with a si civic that actually has vtak biotch!!!

d15z1 "mr.mechanic"

how do you think they get 92 hp and 50 mpg in 1992? vtak-eeeee booooiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

and i'm 300 lbs lighter than an SI hatch too.

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Post by: John Hartman on April 29, 2011, 05:18:50 pm
he has vtech, Mr Honda tech  :D

What Jordan needs is a camera tho...
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Post by: Brett Haviland on April 29, 2011, 06:52:00 pm
ahh okay i did some research and it does appear u have VTAK

well actually... "VTEC-E" which is a form of vtec made to increse low end torque and efficiency keeps one of the intake valves CLOSED longer at lower RPM as opposed to having it OPEN further with normal VTEC..

I assume its not as much geared for the top end power as you would see in the more performance orientated D16Z6 or D16Y8...and more geared for low end torque and effieciency.

so pretty much you have pussy VTAK!! ahahhaha!
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Post by: Remi Raymond on April 29, 2011, 09:05:55 pm
ahh okay i did some research and it does appear u have VTAK

well actually... "VTEC-E" which is a form of vtec made to increse low end torque and efficiency keeps one of the intake valves CLOSED longer at lower RPM as opposed to having it OPEN further with normal VTEC..

I assume its not as much geared for the top end power as you would see in the more performance orientated D16Z6 or D16Y8...and more geared for low end torque and effieciency.

so pretty much you have pussy VTAK!! ahahhaha!


Yes specifically it causes a combustion chamber swirl which allows for the super lean ratios (up to 25:1) because the flame front is to busy swirling to pre-detonate or just go out.
It needs "all that" torque  (relative term) because of the super long gears. It will do 144 in 3rd. 120 in 5th is sits at about 1500 rpm. Its kinda cool how well it does low rpm for a teeny little 1.5

You can also sustain lean burn mode at 100 km/h if you're careful


Just thought you should know all this, being a honda tech and all.  :o

plus I thought around here all vtec was for pussies haha
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Post by: Brett Haviland on April 29, 2011, 10:24:23 pm
so how many km's u get to a tank on that thing?  and how much to fill her up?
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Post by: Remi Raymond on April 29, 2011, 11:31:38 pm
so how many km's u get to a tank on that thing?  and how much to fill her up?

well, I've been kinda beating on it a bit the first two tanks, but over its lifetime its averaged 6L per 100kms. Previous owner tracked mileage for 12 years. That said that was 70% highway.

I got 470 kms to 28L which brought me to about 1/8 of a tank, but my commute is probably one of the worst possible for mielage. Rush hour traffic up the patullo and then up the hill on king george, car barely gets warm by the time i'm at work cause it's about a 10 minute drive. For reference my 8V jetta got barely 400kms a tank doing that same drive.
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Post by: Brett Haviland on April 30, 2011, 07:57:01 am
nice...   i gotta get some new injectors in my white colt... It gets around 9.5L per 100 km's....  the injectors are dirty as shit and when i had it on RG's dyno a year ago it was getting A/F ratios in the 9's... it also bleeds fuel pressure down into the cylinder on hot starts....  I believe the 380 000 km injectors are getting a bit clogged up.
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Post by: John Hartman on April 30, 2011, 08:13:15 am
Brett, you might want to have Valley Fuel Injection try thier hand at the sonic cleaning etc.  Its about $100 or so.  I've done a few sets with them and it works very good on old ones like yours.
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Post by: Zach Holt on April 30, 2011, 02:45:15 pm
Pffft its all V-talk...
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Post by: Brett Haviland on April 30, 2011, 07:41:15 pm
yeah couldnt hurt... i think i might be just putting 450cc's in as the white colt anyways as the 4g61t has 390cc injectors

I will be putting in a 450cc and a 1g mas in there...  or 550's and a 2g mas maybe...  not really sure i wanna go with it yet..  It has the eprom already but it has to be socketed before i do any tuning...

I think just putting in some known good 450cc's along with the 1G mas  should help out a lot and i should be able to get a lot better gas mileage then i do.  Thing with the 1.6L you really need to use the boost to get it moving on to the highway or going up a steep hill at highway speeds.

I bet if it had a 2.0L with a 14b it would get better mileage then the 1.6L 11b does due to the 2.0 not having to work hard at all to get the little hatch moving around.
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Post by: John Hartman on April 30, 2011, 09:27:38 pm
or put 8.5:1 pistons and more aggressive cams(stock C and D grind turbo cams or some JDM Evo cams) so its nicer off boost.  maybe a down pipe and a good intake so it can breathe?
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Post by: Brett Haviland on April 30, 2011, 10:33:43 pm
yeah the intake on it isn't horrible *modded OEM 2G intake pipe with K&N filter w/ stock colt mas)

Im thinking of maybe chipping it and putting it on DS MAP..

Did you guys notice a improvment in a decently tuned DS MAP setup over a properly running MAS setup??
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Post by: John Hartman on April 30, 2011, 10:51:43 pm
yea and not for the better, except at high throttle settings.

It started, idled, and cruised better on the chipped/maf setup, was cleaner in aircare, and got better mileage.

That said, my car was very well dialed in on the MAF.  Jeff O and I did a few revisions and I played around with a few things.  Jackal may make a poor or average car run better.

The thing about Jackal is that you have to tune EVERYTHING.  Not just timing and fuel, but the iat curve, the coolant temp curve, and other things you would take for granted on other tuning systems.  you have to input your own injector dead times for all the voltages from way low to way high.  you  have to enter your open loop/closed loop tps settings etc.  And one mistake in one of these tables will mess it up.  Its hard to know where the mistake is.  The car will run "fine" but it will be off.  And the tune can change day to day making it hard to pinpoint what you are doing.

Plus as it stands, there is no actual intake air temp sensor.  It should be called a charge air temp sensor as its in an intercooler pipe and it heat soaks when idling in a hot engine bay.
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Post by: Marke Bailey on April 30, 2011, 11:04:57 pm
How bout a 2.5" downpipe for better torque and less chance of boost creep.
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Post by: Brett Haviland on May 01, 2011, 02:14:02 am
yeah a full 2.5" exhuast might be nice... but after having a full 3" setup on my old summit wagon and then putting a full 2.5" setup on it before it was sold... i noticed quite a big drop in power between the two..  I think i would go with a 3" setup on any turbo setup after seeing the differences in the two... 

After all... eventually i will probably have a high flowing turbo on the little 1.6L like a evo III or a HTA68 or something... I will want that extra room for the exhuast gases to get the hell out of there!! hahah

One this is for sure... the 89 colt GT will stay at a displacement of 1.6L....  My buddy bren just dropped me off his spare 4g61t out of his 89 GT for me to use if i ever need it...  He opted for the bigger 2.0L... ahahah sucka ;)


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Post by: Jordan Kruger on May 21, 2011, 11:04:41 am
Is it turbocharged?


LOL !  i get jokes.

and john....    I need a camera.. Ive never owned one. lol.   Ill wait till the GF gets home from Hawaii and Ill take a good updated pic.    There has been some minor changes   ;)