British Columbia DSM
GVRD - BC DSM Club => Race Pit => Topic started by: Jordan Gladman on July 09, 2003, 01:09:14 am
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Im planning on racing the next friday it doesnt rain.. im just wondering if ill pass tech... here are a few of my concerns... any input is great
my car is an 89.... so i believe i hate to run straight water instead of 50/50 coolant... i dont have any overflow tank.. it overflows under the car... so what could i be using instead?
i have steelies and they're fairly worn, one of the tires is at the tread marks
and i have a CF hood.... do i need hood pins?
i dont plan to run any lower than 15.0 so will i need a helmet?
thanks guys.. if i get this all sorted out, i might be able to race this friday
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everyone has to run with no coolant and you need to have an overflow bottle, get a pop bottle or something and strap it down.
No hood pins needed, just say that its stock running water.
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mostly what travis said... anything 95 and newer doesn't have to run water, but that's not most of us
you need overflow.... no hoodpins required... only other thing is your battery needs to be clamped down good too.... i always get harassed for that.. but never stopped
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usually the only thing they check on imports is your battery tie down and your coolant.
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I think I have seen this subject discussed at least 20 times since this board came up. Is their an easy way to put up the most frequently discussed topics and have links to them? Sometimes I feel like I am just reading the same shit over and over...Yeah I am cranky today. :evil:
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i figured this would be a repost... oh well
so they dont care if my tires are bald?
and my tie down is quite beefy....
(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid69/p39a594b6bee59a8308972e0ae3f5d3da/fbbb9b56.jpg)
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one more thing... can i remove my headlight assembly? i wanna fit a smaller intercooler in there for my runs :D
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you can take out one, the other one must be functional, get teched with both in their though.
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one last thing... if im running straight water, wont it totally boil over? i already have problems with it getting hot and overflowing a bit.. only a bit.. but wont straight water create way more pressure?
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water is actually cooler, go get a bottle of water wetter from Redline, this stuff is amazing, runs so cool man, try it out, you may be surprised. And if you boil over a lot they wont let you run, so go get a can of water wetter and try it out, also a new rad may help =)
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http://www.missionraceway.com
i think dave had a good idea, we should to start a local FAQ page, things like where to buy such and such and who does what and whcih well and rules for mission and boundary bay etc.
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Take a close look at the battery relocation rules.
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water is actually cooler, go get a bottle of water wetter from Redline, this stuff is amazing, runs so cool man, try it out, you may be surprised. And if you boil over a lot they wont let you run, so go get a can of water wetter and try it out, also a new rad may help =)
rad has 600km on it :D
where is redline?
"6. All vehicles require functioning headlights and taillights"
so does that mean ... 2 headlights? or jsut 1? would i get disqualified or kicked out if i only used 1?
"7. All batteries must be securely mounted (no bungee cords, rope, wire etc)
Relocated batteries please see NHRA Rulebook."
hmm whats this NHRA rulebook?
9. Drivers must wear pants and long sleeve shirts ( no shorts or T-Shirts
allowed).
i hate long sleeve shirts 8)
but yeah... its supposed to be 28 degrees this friday... i guess ill see y'all there :D
what time is a good time to be there?
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you can get away with short sleeves
you most likely can NOT get away with shorts
you can take your headlight out as long as you have one working
and here's the section on batteries from the 2003 NHRA Rulebook
"All batteries must be securely mounted. Batteries may not be relocated into the driver or passenger compartments. Rear firewall of .024-inch steel or .032-inch aluminum (including package tray) required when battery is reloacted in trunk. In lieu of rear firewall, battery may be located in a sealed .024-inch-steel, .032-inch aluminum, or NHRA-accepted poly box. If sealed box is used in lieu of rear firewall, box may not be used to secure battery and must be vented outside of body. Relocated battery(s) must be fastened to frame or frame structure with a minumum of 3/8-inch-diameter bolts. ("J" hooks prohibited or must have open end welded shut.) Metal battery hold-down straps mandatory. Strapping tape prohibited."
http://www.nhraimport.com/2003/rules/GenReg.pdf
you can buy NHRA legal sealed battery boxes at Lordco and Mopac.
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crappy... doenst look like ill get to race after-all.... which is extremely gay...
how much are these boxes and what are the odds of lordco being able to get one by 3 tommorrow?
*edit.. ill just put my battery in the front for tommorrow.. it will probably help my launch anyways
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Lordco should have them, should be able to get them by 3, call down, or even talk to Mopac as they may be a better solution.
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And I believe also if you run down at the track with relocated battery you must have a turn off switch that is accessible in the back.
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Okay, anyone knows how strict there are on the helmets? Will they not pass helmets w/o the Snell 95 rating? I know they didn't pass my helmet last time, but that was a relic from the late 70s, and looked every bit that.
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i think the safety stuff they are strict on, cause they have to mark it down.
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if snell 95 is the rating, you need a snell 95 to run 13.99 or faster. They will check your helmet if they see it.
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What about a driveshaft loop? Who knows, I might get into the 12s...then what, I get booted out?
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well, when farzaan ran his car a couple years ago, he ran a 12.0 and one of the tech guys came burning over to check him out.... all he looked at though was the helmet and said he'd need a rollbar if he went any faster.
Just tell them you dont think you'll go faster than high 13 or something. You should get a loop but i doubt they'll check.
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Sorry if this is a stupid question but why must you drain your coolant? Does it overflow alot and create a mess on the track? Sounds like a pain in the ass to me. How does a overflow bottle work? How do you hook it up?
I was hoping to race next street legals but this is kinda of unexpected to me. How much coolant runs in the system (so what size of a container do i need for it?
Thanks Kevin
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look in your manual it should say how much coolant it is, i cant think of it off the top of my head but just grab a couple of those bottles of washer fluid and pour it in there. Technically you need to run a coolant of some sort, its just that you cant use Antifreeze because it's very very slick and takes a long time to clean up which means if any spills on the track, they shut it down for the night. Replace the antifreeze with water or Redline Water Wetter.
A note about driveshaft loops, if you're doing 12s, GET ONE, dont know if everybody saw it at the shootout, there was a 12s car that had its driveshaft blow off, it could have been a very fatal accident.
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Does the trunk need to be empty to pass inspection? What if I have a subwoofer that is bolted down? Will I still need to take it out or will they not care?
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I passed tech with my sub in there. It wasn't even bolted in. All unsecure items need removal in the pits. You will do this anyway though. Would anybody drag race with heavy objects in the car? :laugh:
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it actually depends on who the tech is inspecting ur ride if its the guy thats announcins in the tower he doesnt really care too much as long as uv raced there before but if its the older guy he gets on ur case everytime
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it actually depends on who the tech is inspecting ur ride if its the guy thats announcins in the tower he doesnt really care too much as long as uv raced there before but if its the older guy he gets on ur case everytime
Rick (the announcer) has retired this year and is no longer working at Mission. He opened his own lowrider shop to work on custom cars.
There are around 5 different techs at mission, 3 of them are super cool, but 2 of the guys are total dicks. However they can't really bust any of us for anything other than running coolant and having no battery tie down. 1998+ cars are even allowed to run coolant.
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I've never had a problem with any of the tech guys.....yet. THey jsut questioned my coolant overflow cause i was using a thin bottle, they just told me to change it for next time. I've always run coolant, but my car is a 1998.
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I was thinking about bringing my car to the shootout, and realized that it's got a crack in the windshield, and therefore probably wouldn't pass tech. They do care about that sort of thing, yeah?
If so, anyone know a cheap place to get a 1gb windshield replaced?
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They care if the crack is right accross the windshield causing it to be a structural safety issue. Been there done that.
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This is how my most recent tech went at mission.
Pull up in my colt. Exhuast was disconnected plus a few other things that if they noticed it wouldn't pass.
Guy grabs my tech card. Looks at my car for 1 second (literally 1 second) Looks at my helmet sitting ontop of my car. Writes down the brand of my helmet and sticks the sticker to the top drivers side of my windshield.
No inspection at all. Never grabbed my battery... never checked under the car for leaks.... nothing.
Maybe my car looks stock or something???
I think it has to more with if you get a lazy guy that just wants to get through cars or a guy that takes his time.
Also i asked the tech guys the weekend before about the hacving to run water in your cooling system. FOr guys with a closed coolent system (run a overflow tank) you can run your normal mix of coolent/water and be fine. You only have to drain your coolent and run water if you have a open coolent system (no overflow tank)