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Offline Mikael Mikkelsen

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Are our cars faster than a near stock 93 rx7??
« on: November 24, 2010, 09:25:40 am »
So everyone has that one buddy that always has to outdo everyone else.

My buddy that's like that knows Nothing about cars, but doesn't like that his $15000 mazda can't beeat my eclipse, even after he's dropped another 5k in it now.

Sooo, he's buying a rx7, he's gotta win!

Do I have any chance against this car? Or is it just too big of a starting point gap?

Offline GlenMartin

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Re: Are our cars faster than a near stock 93 rx7??
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2010, 09:33:01 am »
stock your car is a mid 15 second car......stock an rx7 is a mid 13 second car. what kind of mazda did he have? 15 k mazda with another 5 k into, to me it doesn't sound like his problem is the car.......sounds like it might be the driver.
ahah we both have a good side. lets sue each other!

Offline Brett Haviland

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Re: Are our cars faster than a near stock 93 rx7??
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2010, 09:55:12 am »
$15000 mazda could be a newer base mazda 3...  zoom zoom?  not really lol

But yeah.. a good running (hahahhaha  its a rx7, like thats going to happen ;) ;)  j/k)..........................................................................................

will run in the high/mid 13's with a good launch.  My buddy had a '93 R1 back in the day.  Probably the most enjoyable car i ever drove.

The susupension/balance in that car was absolutly AMAZING....  The engine just ripped ass in the upper RPMS but the lower RPM's it was a torqueless wonder.

i would say that hes going to beat you now, as long as he can drive it and not have it blow the apex seals out the exhuast in the process.

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Offline John Hartman

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Re: Are our cars faster than a near stock 93 rx7??
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2010, 10:39:37 pm »
flat out drag race, it all depends on what you have both done.

Bone stock to Bone stock, 1/8th mile if you can drive you will win.  1/4, his light weight will take over.

handling, braking, he will keel you.

But you can make more and more power, cheaply and easily and not have to run the ragged edge of tuning.

I love the rotary, and turbocharged it kicks ass too, but in the 3rg gen RX-7(the nice swoopy one like his) they have huge heat issues due to close packaging.  And when our cars knock, they will take it for years(in my case) and then finally blow something up.  The rotary, if it knocks, it will almost always die quickly and with gusto.  If its built with super duper apex seals and who ever put it togeather knew what they were doing, then its much tougher.  And they do only have 3 moving parts, so if you can figure out the apex seal thing and tune it well, they are damn robust.  The average street tuner can make the Talon fly for less money, and less brain power than the Rex.

BTW what was his other car?
91 Eagle Talon TSi 5spd awd.  GT-12, TriFlow Cams, 850s, Tial, JIC, Jackal, sticky rubber.
86 Merkur XR4Ti 5spd, rwd, turbo, 91,381km.  Original paint, heated leather. intercooled, big VAM, Full 3" exhaust, Cossie sway bar, 16" tires.
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Offline Richard Clark

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Re: Are our cars faster than a near stock 93 rx7??
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2010, 11:31:35 am »
Bench racers. :P  Why don't you just wait and see, clearly you want to beat him as much as he wants to beat you.  Ricewars begin. (not saying your dsm is rice, just saying that you and your friend sound like ricers)

Offline Jason Harwood

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Re: Are our cars faster than a near stock 93 rx7??
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2010, 04:10:17 pm »
A 93 RX7 will roast you once you guys get into 3rd gear.
Theyre a fucking bitch of a car to launch though.
Once they get up to speed; aerodynamics + 2wd vs 4wd + more HP + light weight = win.
I've seen them do mid 13's nearly stock but never seen one slower than a 14 in the 1/4 mile.
If your car is bone stock - the numbers alone tell you who would win.

But as it is in all cases, it comes down to driver.


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Offline John Hartman

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Re: Are our cars faster than a near stock 93 rx7??
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2010, 09:17:05 pm »
thats why I say for a shorter race, aka 1/8th or so, you should win if you can drive.
91 Eagle Talon TSi 5spd awd.  GT-12, TriFlow Cams, 850s, Tial, JIC, Jackal, sticky rubber.
86 Merkur XR4Ti 5spd, rwd, turbo, 91,381km.  Original paint, heated leather. intercooled, big VAM, Full 3" exhaust, Cossie sway bar, 16" tires.
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2018 VW Golf Alltrack turbo Tornado Red, 6mt, some free mods

Offline Brett Haviland

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Re: Are our cars faster than a near stock 93 rx7??
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2010, 11:37:22 pm »
and his fwd hooks up!

those fd's wheel hop quite a bit.  a rwd car should def be able to outlaunch a fwd spyder tho.
I like Colts.  Turbo Colts.

Offline John Hartman

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Re: Are our cars faster than a near stock 93 rx7??
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2010, 05:40:19 pm »
oh, his car if fwd...

Sorry, I ass-u-me'd that he was awd.
91 Eagle Talon TSi 5spd awd.  GT-12, TriFlow Cams, 850s, Tial, JIC, Jackal, sticky rubber.
86 Merkur XR4Ti 5spd, rwd, turbo, 91,381km.  Original paint, heated leather. intercooled, big VAM, Full 3" exhaust, Cossie sway bar, 16" tires.
06 Mazdaspeed6 6spd awd, DISI turbo, heated leather HIDs, Corksport, Cobb, Konig, Centric...
2018 VW Golf Alltrack turbo Tornado Red, 6mt, some free mods

Offline Zach Holt

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Re: Are our cars faster than a near stock 93 rx7??
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2010, 07:28:01 pm »
on topic yet not. my 91 talon bone stock got smoked by a stock CRX.... I was sickend. yet it happend I havent repored the rape yet.... and I dont think I will because the CRX died when it fough a tree in surrey.

sniff sniff, thats why my 4G64 stated smoking PCP for 700+ :( tear....
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Offline Mikael Mikkelsen

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Re: Are our cars faster than a near stock 93 rx7??
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2010, 12:37:17 am »
"Bench racers.   ;D hah, yeah I guess so, not very often though.

He was driving a fairly new Mazda 3, exhaust, some clutch work, springs, rims and that kinda crap.


I was just looking for some other points of view and I sure got em  ;D


*btw the only aftermarket external piece on my car is some clear headlights, barely rice by anyones standards, even stock size tires and rims. I blend into traffic very well when I need to  ::)

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Re: Are our cars faster than a near stock 93 rx7??
« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2010, 08:59:30 am »
Stock Mazda 3(NOT Speed3), you will destroy it.  Even if he has a good intake, a header and full exhaust and some sort of reflash, you will still kill him.
91 Eagle Talon TSi 5spd awd.  GT-12, TriFlow Cams, 850s, Tial, JIC, Jackal, sticky rubber.
86 Merkur XR4Ti 5spd, rwd, turbo, 91,381km.  Original paint, heated leather. intercooled, big VAM, Full 3" exhaust, Cossie sway bar, 16" tires.
06 Mazdaspeed6 6spd awd, DISI turbo, heated leather HIDs, Corksport, Cobb, Konig, Centric...
2018 VW Golf Alltrack turbo Tornado Red, 6mt, some free mods

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Re: Are our cars faster than a near stock 93 rx7??
« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2010, 12:06:53 pm »
and even a mazda speed 3 arnt super fast.  I remember absuolutly destroying one in my evo... and i have him the head start so my awd wouldnt give me a advantage...

I like Colts.  Turbo Colts.

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Re: Are our cars faster than a near stock 93 rx7??
« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2010, 07:48:59 pm »
No it wasn't even a speed, that thing gets destroyed by everything, hence why he's going with the rx7. Looks like I'm going to have to beat him the old fasioned way, skill and knowledge

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Re: Are our cars faster than a near stock 93 rx7??
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2010, 07:26:11 am »
and even a mazda speed 3 arnt super fast.  I remember absuolutly destroying one in my evo... and i have him the head start so my awd wouldnt give me a advantage...



speed3's are superlimited.
Their potential is awesome though.
There was a guy at the track who put the boots to me in my dsm.
He went 12's with street tires.
88' MX6 Turbo - 14.2 @ 97.51MPH
94' MX6 V6 - 13.9 @ 96.7MPH
93' Civic Turbo - 14.7 @ 90MPH (bad tune)
90' Civic SI - Auto-X Machine
97' Eclipse GSX 13.6 @ 105MPH
96' Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo
97' Acura EL 14.5 @ 98MPH
'02 Lexus IS300 15.125 @ 91MPH
97' CR-V Winter Beater.
04' WRB WRX STI