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Title: Delta cams??
Post by: daniel Dee on June 17, 2011, 12:11:09 am: Anybody dealt with Delta cams in Tacoma,Wash

Anybody has any opinion on K272 cams for stroker.
Title: Re: Delta cams??
Post by: Ryan Coft on June 17, 2011, 01:29:48 am: My suggestion would be to Go see Jeff at colt cams in aldergrove if you want the best. He can customize you a cam for your motor with exactly what you want. Plus he's a local business, good guy too.
Title: Re: Delta cams??
Post by: daniel Dee on June 17, 2011, 11:44:29 pm: depends on what cam profiles he has in stock...
I don't really want to experiment on a custom profile at this time.
However a phone call won't hurt.
Title: Re: Delta cams??
Post by: John Hartman on June 18, 2011, 06:04:54 pm: in stock or not is totally irrelevant.

I doubt he will have anything for our cars "in stock" he may have a set of stage 1 or something but thats it.

He is excellent, local, and knows his shit inside and out.

you don't have to experiment or have anything wierd or oddball at all. If you want something tried and true, ask for it.

Tell him what you need, tell him how you will be using it, tell him the rpm range, boost etc, and he will make you a set of sticks that will work as good or better than anything else.

As well, Delta do regrinds too, and haven't been doing them for as long as Geoff. And one other thing, they just copy other cams exactly whereas Geoff develops his own.

AND, Delta is a US company whereas Colt are from Aldergrove.
Title: Re: Delta cams??
Post by: Marke Bailey on June 18, 2011, 09:48:04 pm: Also a cam profile is just a mathematical equation, so to make a set that you know of is easy enough if you have the specs.
Title: Re: Delta cams??
Post by: Ryan Coft on June 18, 2011, 11:26:48 pm: I always spell his name wrong.

I know he has at least three different cam profiles in his database for our cars, and he usually does his from fresh billets, not regrinds usually.

IMO I wouldn't go anywhere else, especially with his tri-flow technology he's using.
Title: Re: Delta cams??
Post by: John Hartman on June 19, 2011, 08:51:43 am: Yes he does billets, but they are more money.

And he has a really good arguement about regrinds.

How many times have you heard of Mitsubishi cams breaking or wearing out? Of course that statement doesn't include abuse or poor assembly, but barring that, I don't think they actually do wear out. So you are starting with the best part you can get and changing its profile.

Of course on huge cams, you will need shims, and if you go with billets, you won't need shims.
Title: Re: Delta cams??
Post by: daniel Dee on June 20, 2011, 10:33:29 pm: re: Colt cams
I saw some $800 prices on cams for Nisson so it scared me away..
I agree it is possible to built a big cam that idles decent.

I notice a few hardcore DSMer's are adding Mivec to their 4g63.
HKS has a kit out for the later 4g63

Kiggy added it to his 2g head...

With all those Vtec engines around it would be nice to bring the 4g63 somewhat up to date.
Title: Re: Delta cams??
Post by: John Hartman on June 20, 2011, 10:36:28 pm: I could see $800 for a set of 4 cams on a V6 or V8 application.
Title: Re: Delta cams??
Post by: Remi Raymond on June 20, 2011, 10:39:58 pm: Wonder what he would charge me to do a set for my v8... the off the shelf ones have prices with more zeros than I would care to admit in them.
Title: Re: Delta cams??
Post by: John Hartman on June 20, 2011, 11:43:03 pm: oh I am damn sure he could make you a sweet set for lots less than any of those Cherman manufacturers would...
Title: Re: Delta cams??
Post by: andrew volcz on June 21, 2011, 01:43:22 am: Not considering the FP 4R cams D?
Title: Re: Delta cams??
Post by: daniel Dee on June 27, 2011, 11:58:04 pm: Quote from: andrew volcz on June 21, 2011, 01:43:22 am
Not considering the FP 4R cams D?

FP4R 220 duration @50 nobody has anything bad to say about them.

Looking at k272 or new GSC S2 cams both cams have out dyno the fp4r.

Too bad our motors don't have Vtec ...They don't have to compromise on cam selection.
Title: Re: Delta cams??
Post by: John Hartman on June 28, 2011, 07:32:48 pm: GSC S2 Dan, or maybe S3 even for your turbo.
LOTS of good reviews of the GSC stuff.
Title: Re: Delta cams??
Post by: andrew volcz on June 28, 2011, 11:09:25 pm: +2 on the GSC stuff - we can bring it in for you. S3 cams would be pretty agressive. we've used the S1's on a couple mild setups with gooood results
Title: Re: Delta cams??
Post by: daniel Dee on July 14, 2011, 11:52:01 pm: Delta Kelford 272 cams

(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i261/wookiek7/dyno/deltak272-1.jpg)

Summary 226 duration @1.0mm lift 11mm total lift centerlines@ full lift 107in 113ex
Title: Re: Delta cams??
Post by: daniel Dee on December 06, 2014, 07:45:01 pm: I sold the Delta Kelford cams to somebody on Club DSM forums.

His results quote:

I did do some playing with overlap last year and got some decent gains in airflow without losing hardly any spool. Probably 4lb/min with 2 degree change.
You can calculate rough hp numbers though based on full weight 2g (except for CF hood and evo 8 seats) and 132mph trap.
They seem to be delivering for me.

I'm only 8.5:1 but can run up to 33psi @ 17 degrees timing with only the odd blip of knock. Just enough to let me know the sensor is working.
I was running around 20 degrees but as I pushed the boost up to 30 PSI it would start to knock.

I'm running pump + single M10 nozzle.

I just ordered a set of H11 headstuds. Once they are in, I plan to push up to 35+ psi.
Title: Re: Delta cams??
Post by: Jamie McIntyre on December 12, 2014, 09:40:26 am: Sounds like a formidable set up indeed