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GVRD - BC DSM Club => Garage => Topic started by: Constantin Morosan on January 01, 2010, 10:45:08 pm
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Well i got abit of a problem here .
my 2g Eclipse wont start no more the engine is a 4g63 turbo ..
the ignition and spark gradualy start failing piston by piston i was down to 3 then 2 and now only one seams to be firing when it turns over to start there is no Spark at all in 3 of the 4 cylinder wich makes me think of an electrical problem .. heres the list of things i have changed thinking it may help with out success , spark plug and wires , coils , tansistor/egnition module , and Crank scensor .. I am running out of ideas of what could be wrong with it , John told me to do a compresion test and so i will do when i get a tester ,
im throwing that out there and see if anyone else had a similar issue and point me the right direction to get my baby back on the road .
cheers and thank you .
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do you have a 7 or 6 bolt? do you have a cam angle sensor? how bout a code reader... try scanning it and see what codes you have.
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i haven o clue if its a 6 or 7 bolt i know it has been swap .. i am not that knowing when it comes to this , but willing to learn . as for the cam angle sensor did get to check it if been flying blind and replacing parts for a few weeks now . not the smartes an cheapes way to do it . ::)
whats a easy way to identify of its a 6 or 7 bolt ?
as for the cod reader i don't have one or dont know really where to go in chilliwack to get it done and its hard to since the car is not running at all .
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as for the cod reader i don't have one or dont know really where to go in chilliwack to get it done and its hard to since the car is not running at all .
Go to canadian tire, buy a code reader, read your codes, return the code reader.
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as for the cod reader i don't have one or dont know really where to go in chilliwack to get it done and its hard to since the car is not running at all .
Go to canadian tire, buy a code reader, read your codes, return the code reader.
you sir are a genius .... !! THANK YOU ! ;D
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they are not that much money and if you have an OBD2 car of any kind in North America, you may as well keep it. Reading 1 code(or at the most 2) it will pay for itself.
Also, where is the car at right now?
I MAY be able to swing by and have a quick look.
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sounds exactly exactly like what happened to me when my cam angle sensor went
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I have a code reader you can use.
Also, have you tested your igniter
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i recently had the same problem with my car, it ended up being my computer, it was an aem ecu i had to send it in and pay $400 to get it fixed, not sure if its the same problem but u never know
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says he changed the transistor/ign module, so I am assuming thats the same as the ignitor?
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make sure the cam angle sensor is instaled correctly. It could be 180 degrees out
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that will USUALLY only cause a slight barely noticable misfire. many people have driven around for months and years with it 180 out.
Plus his used to run good, and just started to go like it is, without him taking the CAS out of the car.
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sorry thought he allready replaced it. I have never run with it 180 out so I wouldn't know how it would affect the car, but for the 2 easily acessable bolts it would have been a easy check. Just tossing ideas.
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sorry thought he allready replaced it. I have never run with it 180 out so I wouldn't know how it would affect the car, but for the 2 easily acessable bolts it would have been a easy check. Just tossing ideas.
ideas is what i want Rob :D i am short of them and scratching my head on what is up with it ...
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Check b+ to PCM with a test light for voltage. Use a test lamp that has 1 amp or more of current draw to assure that the wiring is capable of good current flow. Some of the newer test lights only have a current draw of 50 milliamps or less. If your test lamp has less than one amp of current draw, then a turnsignal bulb will make a good substitute.
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Are you still getting fuel?
If yes, then it's not the cam angle sensor - If it's failed, you won't get fuel OR spark.
(Or, at least that's how it is with a 1g.)
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mike am not sure of what you talking about .. its intriguing me tho .. if you don't mind PM me about more details i would love to give it a shot . and Cam yeah its getting fuel and firing on one piston which i believe is #4 if i remember well . i got a code reader on the way hope that will give me an idea and i also got a compression testing kit so ill be taking care of that also this weekend .
thanks guys for all the Great info .
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if your not getting spark on 3 cyl's then thats ur problem. Check and double check all ignition components.
Power trans, coil packs, fuses,
you can test each individual unit with a ohm meter..... but i imagine that is over your head.
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if your not getting spark on 3 cyl's then thats ur problem. Check and double check all ignition components.
Power trans, coil packs, fuses,
you can test each individual unit with a ohm meter..... but i imagine that is over your head.
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Just do the basics ont those mentioned with a volt meter. It would be also better to scan your car to pull the code, but my guesses by now is that it will show the code random cylinder misfire, which isn't something you don't know already.
An OBD2 scanner is a good tool to have and keep for your future cars also. I would buy and keep one if they are on sale and cheap.
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if your not getting spark on 3 cyl's then thats ur problem. Check and double check all ignition components.
Power trans, coil packs, fuses,
you can test each individual unit with a ohm meter..... but i imagine that is over your head.
Obviously it's my problem it's my car ::) LOL
changed all four spark plug and wires .. and also the coils and the power transistor and even went and changed the crank censor .. not over my head i have done everything i could think of and that i know of. that's why i am here asking for more help .. i got a cod reader on the way hope that may help me little more . ;D
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have you checked compression on that hole yet?
and have you checked for injector pulse and/or swapped the injector from the shitty cylinder to a good one yet? As per facebook and pms here?
ANY engine has to have 3 things to fire. Compression, fuel and spark. And they have to be at the correct time.
Spark and compression are easy to test on these cars.
DO these tests. Anything else is just guessing. Not saying you can't get lucky by guessing, but its not a good way to go about problem solving.
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ill work on doing does test this weekend and get back to you with my conclusion of testing .. with the swaping of the injectors and the compresion testing i still have to get a compresion test kit and i am waiting on the code reader to show up also . you were also saying inthe the "right way to do a compresion test " talk that you should have a fully charged battery for that test . well mine is dead so i gues ill have to buy a new one or find a charger .
its been alot of guessing and working from what i believed was the problem back . no luck so far .
more testing .. will be done this weekend :D
thanks all !
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well heres a update ..
I have done the compression test and everything seams fine .. well at least i think it is.. all piston average 130 150 psi i have no clue if that good or bad. I also notice when i plug and unplug the Crank censor .. i hear a electric or something from behind the motor near the firewall .. the mestup thing is that if i plug and unplug it a good 5 or 6 times .. it seams to charge up something because when i go to fire up the car i can hear all 4 piston firing and wanting to go .. then only two keep working .. my computer doesn't read Anything wrong with it ..could it be the ECU ?
I am very lost in eager to fix this car up .. any more suggestions ?
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the crank sensor is behind the lower timing cover, is this the one you are unplugging?
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well heres a update ..
I have done the compression test and everything seams fine .. well at least i think it is.. all piston average 130 150 psi i have no clue if that good or bad. I also notice when i plug and unplug the Crank censor .. i hear a electric or something from behind the motor near the firewall .. the mestup thing is that if i plug and unplug it a good 5 or 6 times .. it seams to charge up something because when i go to fire up the car i can hear all 4 piston firing and wanting to go .. then only two keep working .. my computer doesn't read Anything wrong with it ..could it be the ECU ?
I am very lost in eager to fix this car up .. any more suggestions ?
The compression test is mostly used to determine if two cylinders next to each other are different because that will usually reveal a problem. You say 130-150 but that can mean a lot; for example
130-135-145-150 isn't as bad as 130-150-150-150 would be.
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even then it should start and run smoothly for the most part. Yes, spec says its supposed to be within 14% of each other, but that example would run.
If its 150-50-50-150, we suspect head gasket or cracked head etc. Or just 2 sets of coincidentally burned valves.
for reference, my red car ran mostly smoothly with 155-140-120-85 for quite a while. It was 155-145-140-90 for a long time too,but it settled at the lower values for about a year. Even passed aircare.
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even then it should start and run smoothly for the most part. Yes, spec says its supposed to be within 14% of each other, but that example would run.
If its 150-50-50-150, we suspect head gasket or cracked head etc. Or just 2 sets of coincidentally burned valves.
for reference, my red car ran mostly smoothly with 155-140-120-85 for quite a while. It was 155-145-140-90 for a long time too,but it settled at the lower values for about a year. Even passed aircare.
The second I posted that I wondered if I shouldn't just remove it, mostly based on that.
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on that note, you WERE right on the Mazdaspeed 3 power issue. Not sure where I got the figures from, but its rated at 263, and mine is rated at 274.
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on that note, you WERE right on the Mazdaspeed 3 power issue. Not sure where I got the figures from, but its rated at 263, and mine is rated at 274.
I have an RG dyno for a a MS3 (stock save for a mazdaspeed intake, but was running 91 octane) I would love to see your sheet and compare the curves some time. Got a copy you can post?
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I have a paper copy, thats all. RG might have it saved somewhere?
Like all of them online etc, it hits hard and then slowly falls off, then at 5500ish it drops off.
Interestingly, the torque and hp curves don't cross at 5250 like they are supposed to. First one I have seen like that.
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I have a paper copy, thats all. RG might have it saved somewhere?
Like all of them online etc, it hits hard and then slowly falls off, then at 5500ish it drops off.
Interestingly, the torque and hp curves don't cross at 5250 like they are supposed to. First one I have seen like that.
RG scales the tq and hp graphs differently on the same printout/sheet
The overlap exists because of the way its drawn if both graphs scale in a 1:1 ratio due to the nature of how torque/hp calculate in relation to each other.
their readout squeezes things a bit it seems, I've always wondered why they do that.
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the crank sensor is behind the lower timing cover, is this the one you are unplugging?
yes john its the one i replaced thinking it was the issue .. also .. its really weird how when i play with it unpluging and pluging back in a few times . its seams to charge something up and then u can hear all 4 piston firing for a plit second when i try to start the engien then back to only two ..
this is my reading from my compresion test .. #1 155 ,# 2 125 # 3 155 #4 125
i have also noticed that when the Left flasher light bulb is in the inside flasher indicator(green arrow) is always on when the headligths are turned on .. when i take the bulb out the indicator turns off .. thats a electrical issue for sure and now i am wondering if it could be the cause of all this problem or just one more indicator that my ECU is toasted :P LOL ill take that thing out and have a closer look firday ..
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computer is out .. i taken it appart and took a good look at it .. i cant really see anything burned or out of the ordinary but this
wich is by the resistance R234 R235 R222 R221 R223 R224 that the look from behind
if anyone know anything about the computer and electric parts in it . or anyone kind enough to let me plug my computer in their Car and see if it works . what you all think ?
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2a8253q.jpg)
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you can try my car if you like, not to sure how close to aldergrove you are but the offer is there.
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Ill take yoru offer , i have to head that way tomorow anyway .. !
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Just seeing if you got your car running yet. hopefully you have it figured out.
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Just seeing if you got your car running yet. hopefully you have it figured out.
nope waiting on the new ECU to show up .. hopefully it will solve this problem and get my toy back on the road .
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Where did you get a new one from?
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He is getting it from me.
You need one? I have a couple 1g eproms forsale also. haha
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Thanks for the offer but i just had mine rebuilt for free by a friend of mine that rebuilds computers. :)
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but is it an Eprom?
Big difference.
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ummm, no,lol. whats the difference. i really dont know, still new here, lol.
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An Eprom has a chip that you can remove from the board and have a socket put in its place. you can then put a custom burnt chip or run an Eprom emulator such as an ostrich through the ECU. You can also plug the stock chip into the socket.
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ic, now do theses comps have the same issues as the other ones?
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oh you guyz and your fancy words ..
all i want is a ECU that works and my car to work :) lol
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ic, now do theses comps have the same issues as the other ones?
Same issuse such as caps leaking?
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lol, i know that feeling. went through that last week and the week before, lol
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Same issuse such as caps leaking?
yes, that minor issue, lol.
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so what exactly leaks ? and why ?
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Same issuse such as caps leaking?
yes, that minor issue, lol.
Yes they still have caps so yes they can leak. But having caps replaced is very cheap, and in your case free. haha.
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humm free i like that .. i think its the cheapest thing i ill ahve done on my car :P lol !
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well new ECU in .. and the result was ... rolling DRUMMS ...
PRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
NOTHING .. i mean i went from having a 2 piston firing to None .. or i should say it was firing one like a fart here in there .. once in awhile .. more like a back fire ..
well now the question is .... what could it be ? seriously .. the list of Shit i have changed just blows my mind and one of the think i t havent change yet is the Cam shaft scensor . could it be possible that the timing skiped ? but even tho if it did it would still fire all four piston but missfiring really bad now wouldnt it ?
i am running out of ideas on why in hell it doesnt work no more . i just truly hope its no the wiring .. because now that would just ...
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I'll have to have a look at this thing sometime soon. Maybe on the weekend?
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I'll have to have a look at this thing sometime soon. Maybe on the weekend?
OH PLEASE !!!
I AM BEGGIN YOU HELP Me JOhn your my only hope .. LOL<---- star wars quote .. :P
Im free satruday after noon around 4 if you want ?
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Obi-John Kenobi?
OMG.
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I thought you changed your cam angle sensor allready?? WTF? I have a spare one here if you want to try it.
Shitty deal about your ecu, I wonder why it wouldn't run in my car. I think it was the wires.. I should have changed the fireing order.. now I feel like a doush.
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I thought you changed your cam angle sensor allready?? WTF? I have a spare one here if you want to try it.
Shitty deal about your ecu, I wonder why it wouldn't run in my car. I think it was the wires.. I should have changed the fireing order.. now I feel like a doush.
bah dont worry about it rob now i got tow .. just in case :P !! .. but ya man if i can take that sensor of ya .. and give it a try . i can swing by saturday and pick it up . now the question is how much of a pain is it to change ?!!
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If you use a 97 - 98 in a 95, you need to swap firing order.
That's why it probably didnt run on that ECU.
I'd swap them to make sure.
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If you use a 97 - 98 in a 95, you need to swap firing order.
That's why it probably didnt run on that ECU.
I'd swap them to make sure.
i got the new ECU from richard .. and well not sure from what year its from .. now the question is how am i supose to swap the firing order ?
since ot a 95 with a dont know what year ECU .
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If you use a 97 - 98 in a 95, you need to swap firing order.
That's why it probably didnt run on that ECU.
I'd swap them to make sure.
i got the new ECU from richard .. and well not sure from what year its from .. now the question is how am i supose to swap the firing order ?
since ot a 95 with a dont know what year ECU .
It's an eprom out of a 95 with the stock chip.
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You don't need to change the fireing order it's the SAME year ECU that came out of your car. I had to change fireing order as I have a 98, thats why it didn't work when we tried it in my car.
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ha so the ECU is good to go no BS // except for all the BS with my car ..
well gave it a try again tonight .. throtle full open .. and cranked int over and over and over and over no success .. i can hear it kinda wanting to fire up but then it sounds like something braking and Taking all the juice of the battery out .. its very intriging . ill charge up the battery again tonight and Try again tomorow ..
there is nothing else i can do but keep on trying. .
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Check all your fuses.
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Check all your fuses.
i did and did again . i guess il check them again tomorow .. unless there is a secret fuse bhox i dont know about ..
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If just just keep trying to start it, it's not going to help.
Do you have a 6 or 7 bolt?
I have the 6 bolt sensor it looks like this.
(http://members.shaw.ca/dsm.1000q/Engineprimer/1G/cas.jpg)
I can't remember if my 7 bolt had one, I am 98% sure it didn't.
Hope you get this figured out soon.
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nope mine doesnt have that one .. in the book it shows its on the front of the motor behind god knows what .. i have a gut feeling its gonna be just as fun to replace as the crank sensor. wich is pretty much like u ha ve to do your timming belt to get to it ..
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well i am realy curious on know if the cam sencor have anything to do with the firing on a 4g63 ?
could it keep it from firing two of my piston if its defectif ? what is the job of the cam sencor ?
just throwing this question out there since john and I took a closor look and the timing is good the injectors are good fuel presur is good two out of the 4 are firing and well we scratch out heads .. :D
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If your still have trouble finding it try this site it helped a ton
http://members.shaw.ca/dsm.1000q/Engineprimer/1G/index.htm
theirs a second gen version on that site also
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Constantine, we don't know if the injectors are good at all. We know that they are getting signal so the wiring and whatever triggers them is good, but they may be bad.
We know it has compression, the cam timing is good, the ignition timing is good, the injectors are getting pulses that appear to be at the right time and in regular intervals. We also know there is lots of fuel and its under pressure.
we know it has good spark on 2 with one ecu and on none with the other.
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so technicaly we know ALOT and at the same time it doesnt tell us much . i think i am gonna take the injectors out and Crank it see if fuel gets spit out . ill make some sort of set up so fuel dont get spray everywhere and burn my car down !
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so technicaly we know ALOT and at the same time it doesnt tell us much . i think i am gonna take the injectors out and Crank it see if fuel gets spit out . ill make some sort of set up so fuel dont get spray everywhere and burn my car down !
If you crank it and you don't smell unburnt fuel I don't think you would be getting any.
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so technicaly we know ALOT and at the same time it doesnt tell us much . i think i am gonna take the injectors out and Crank it see if fuel gets spit out . ill make some sort of set up so fuel dont get spray everywhere and burn my car down !
If you crank it and you don't smell unburnt fuel I don't think you would be getting any.
ur right tho when only two of them were running at the tail pipe it smelled like fuel ..ill still do it and see whats up .. but that still doesn't Explain on why i get no spark on two of them ? i guess ill know if my ignition transitors are any good when i test them on Kyle's car .
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test the ignitor first. MOST likely the injectors are good, but your car does sit for long periods of time. Thing is its for sure not getting spark, so that needs to be solved first.
We KNOW there is no spark, and we can guess that there is fuel, so fix the one we KNOW is wrong first.
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test the ignitor first. MOST likely the injectors are good, but your car does sit for long periods of time. Thing is its for sure not getting spark, so that needs to be solved first.
We KNOW there is no spark, and we can guess that there is fuel, so fix the one we KNOW is wrong first.
i will do sir !! :D i dotn work the rest of the week so ill tinker on it !
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just tested all three of my ignition transitor and All of them worked perfectly on kyle's Car .. so thast not the problem . now does anyone have a Working ECU that i could try in my car. someone around town ?
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check for 12v key on power at ignition coil connector and the triggers for voltage when you crank. not sure if you want to do any electrical work.
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update...
Well just got the ECU slaped it in and ... Nothing new .
Still the same BS issue .. not only its doesnt work but i cant even get the car to get fixed since it got broken into .
I just found discovered this thing wich i have NO idea what it does and well i though i would ask you guys . ill explain , u know how the Triangular looking connector that goes to The crank scensor.. well there is another one located below and well i found the thing that was connected to is Broken and just tucked in behind the engine . now if anyone knows what i am talking about can u please tell me what is that thing for ? and well i guess to get to it i will have to remove the whole air intake , injectors and throtle control and all that to find out and get to it .
heres a pic of the thing i found ..
(http://i40.tinypic.com/142bm2w.jpg)
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does it plug into/connect to anything? Is it connected/plugged in now?
If it is supposed to be plugged in, do so. And make sure the connector pins are clean and fit correctly.
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i cant see where it needs to connect and no its not connected right now i have no idea where to connected or if it was connected befor its goes somewhere behind the engine ... ! ???
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So i went to help Constantin today with the car thought it may be an issue with the alarm wiring. Yes the alarm wiring was a disaster it was disgusting. Anyways, we found out when he unplugs the cas plug behind the timing belt cover there is a weird sound inside the intake manifold and the stock mbc clicks. When we swapped the mbc it didn't click but didn't fix anything lol. So ya below is a picture of what he was trying to show. Its random 2 wires with a broken plug it looks like below the cas plug. Nothing looks out of ordinary around there. Im not Mr. Mechanic but i know that should go somewhere haha.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v617/boardforum69/IMG_0159.jpg)
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Kyle, swap out your ingnitor box with him.
and other parts that might fit
try his shit on your car and vice versa
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Kyle, swap out your ingnitor box with him.
and other parts that might fit
try his shit on your car and vice versa
if ur talking of the ignition transtor john .. we test all 3 of them on his car and all worked perfectly .. not so much on my car .. :(
im thinking of getting it towed to a shop and but it on a real computer and see whats up .. and maybe get it fixed i am jsut tired of it !
still remains the question why does it fire only on 2 and not all four .. :(
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That looks like the connector for the stock airbox vacuum. Which should be plugged in (wires), but plugged with a screw (hose)
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Have you checked your cam and crank sensors? mby one of them is the problem.
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Apparently he has changed the crank sensor. His car is CAS less, unless I am confused, I do see a few engines every day ;)
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there must be a Cam scensor .. i think .. shit i dont know anymore .. i just got back from replacing my window and well taking the bumper off tomorow and looking around some more .
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Cam sensor would be located on the transmission end of the engine, on the firewall side of the valve cover. Hockey puck sized, metal case. 3 wires coming out of it.
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Not on a 7 bolt. Already tried that one John. Unless he has a 6 bolt. I am sure he doesn't, he better not.
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bahh. See, I told you I see too many engines in a day...
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Mine had a cas, just like the pic below. It is non adjustable unlike the 1g's.
(http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm12/drummer_guy000/my%2098%20eclipse%20gsx/eclipse1.jpg)
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BAH!! I Knew I was right...
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Pretty sure 95-96 had no CAS but 97-99 did
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Sorry John I guess I was wrong.. Again lol
Change that yet Constantin?
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i do have one or i dont ? if u gear head are getting lost in this .. here do you think i am standing .. ?
whats the sensor that has its connector right beside the crank shaft sensor ? isnt that the Cam shaft sensor ? and if thats what you guys are talking about well i havent changed it yet since to get to it i would have to re-do all the timming belt set up step by step .. since its behind it . and i dont want to do that unles i REALY have to wich is one of the reason i am gonna get it towed to a shop and slap on a real computer for soem diagnostic ..
hope that will help .. LOL :P
Edit*** oh and that connector i had pictur of .. its for the AC ..
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Mine had a cas, just like the pic below. It is non adjustable unlike the 1g's.
(http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm12/drummer_guy000/my%2098%20eclipse%20gsx/eclipse1.jpg)
The part on the Valve cover right above the Radiator fill cap. Change that yet?
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i dont have that .. cant change what i dont have .. :D :D
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got my baby on a flat deck and towed away . it was heart breaking .. well ill keep u guys posted on what the mechanics find out if they finde anything ! crossing my fingers !
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THE CAR IS BACK ON T HE ROAD !! THANKS TO RALPH VAN WOERDEN SHOP
I M very happy with them and my car .. and even tho i just Crashed the bumper AGAIN just a scrap that fuck it up allready .. too fucking low god damn it ..
I think i am gonna slap a Stock bumper on its getting Anoying as shit ..
but ya .. i am very pleased with them .. fixed it all up iam happy..
now back to the bodyshop with that fucking bumper . i need raise that suspansion >:(
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Glad to hear.
Did they say what the main cause of the problem was?
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Yayy good stuff Constantin!! less the bumper :(
what did the problem turn out to be?
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the main issue was really bad fuel that has been sitting for a long time .. that jamed the injectors and fuel filter wich has never been changed... lol
and a new coils i got from lordco a set wasnt working .. soo those are the two main things . now it works like a charm .. - me trashignthe bumper.. P.S vanessa i cruised by ur place .. or at least ur car was parked ..lol since the shope is around the corner ..
well now i need to figure out if i am gonna keep that stupid bumper or go back to OEM ..
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I live in the new apt. on chesterfield...is that where you saw it?
And I think you should stick with the blitz bumper you have, it looks awesome on your car ....just be a little more careful :P
I personally avoid bashing up my kit by avoid parking lots, speed bumps and anything with an entrance lol I've driven to Hope to go to the bank before just because I didn't feel like dealing with parking lot at the cibc out here :P
Kits are high maintenance but they look wicked
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Put a 2gb GSX bumper on it, Glad you got it all up and running.
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I had a feeling about the fuel, and injectors, from sitting.
Shitty about the half working coil tho, I bet if that would have been good, we could have got it started enough to clear it up eventually. But not on 2 cylinders...
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I had a feeling about the fuel, and injectors, from sitting.
Shitty about the half working coil tho, I bet if that would have been good, we could have got it started enough to clear it up eventually. But not on 2 cylinders...
Shoot I had 2 spare coils here.
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The problem with mine was fuel also...except mine was flooded. ;D
I keep it at my parent's place since I live in the hood, and this hood ain't gonna let a sand nigga be hood rich round 'hurr. LOL
So one day my dad had to move it, he thought my car was so old that he had to give it gas while starting...ended up flooding it; and there it sat for two months.
But anyway...I agree with Vanessa dude, keep the blitz front end. Your car looks fuckin' sick with it!
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The problem with mine was fuel also...except mine was flooded. ;D
I keep it at my parent's place since I live in the hood, and this hood ain't gonna let a sand nigga be hood rich round 'hurr. LOL
So one day my dad had to move it, he thought my car was so old that he had to give it gas while starting...ended up flooding it; and there it sat for two months.
But anyway...I agree with Vanessa dude, keep the blitz front end. Your car looks fuckin' sick with it!
Lol that's actually funny Ryan...Sorry to laugh at your expense <3 Your Dads not the brightest cookie hey :P jkjk
But yeah it looks even more amazing in person!! You shouldn't change a thing about it, it's gorgeous...just get the front repaired and maybe some taller suspension so you have a bit more clearance
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i love it too but fuck i cant get in or out of anywhere .. i got it fixed then it died on me aand technicaly the Day after it got fixed (3 months later ) and i fucke it up .. ARG !!!
ill see how it will look when i slap them stock coils on . hope fully gain a few inchs .. until i get my Tein suspansion set !
And right back at ya Vanessa ur front bumper is HOT actualy ur whole car is hot :D .. do u scrape it now and then ? because it seams like its just as low as mine .
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I had a feeling about the fuel, and injectors, from sitting.
Shitty about the half working coil tho, I bet if that would have been good, we could have got it started enough to clear it up eventually. But not on 2 cylinders...
i agree .. but again brand new coils from lordco and they didnt work so me foolishly thing it was workin kinda got me scratchign my head !! LOL but WHO CARES !! ITS RUNNING !! and i am damaging it more EACH DAY !
dont worry about it rob i got some i ll pick them up on monday . and get her going ..
Oh man i was looking at my engine bay today and Shit i have my work cut out for me !! :S
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Thanks :)
I scrape everywhere though...I bottom out driving down the road
But I'm super careful. I drive around bumps on the road, I slow right down over train tracks and completely avoid the tracks on prest, park on the road instead of driveways and take my other car to places I know there is a steap entrance lol it's a serious pain in the a** but I love it sooo much lol wouldn't have it any other way ;)
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Thanks :)
I scrape everywhere though...I bottom out driving down the road
But I'm super careful. I drive around bumps on the road, I slow right down over train tracks and completely avoid the tracks on prest, park on the road instead of driveways and take my other car to places I know there is a steap entrance lol it's a serious pain in the a** but I love it sooo much lol wouldn't have it any other way ;)
the story of my life and i still manages to fuck it up :D LOL !! part of having a car too loww..
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You can do iiiiit!
Trust me man...just go over bumps and down ramps sideways and go extra wide, taking up both sides, and go one wheel at a time, nice and slow.
I was actually considering making a youtube vid of how close I can get to the ground without scraping it...it would go something like this:
I'd pull in, a buddy would be recording...I'd stop at the lowest point which is at the bottom of the driveway where my bumper is almost scraping. Then he'd run up and try to stick a twoonie between the bumper and the ground. (I shit you not...I come so close that you can't even fit one between the two)
Then the camera would come up to me in the driver side window, and my buddy would be like this (in a high pitched ghetto voice), "this nigga be knowin' his ride so good, k'aint a mutha fucka be comin' this close!" And he'd hold up the twoonie.
A quick close up of me, and I'd say: "Shiiiyet, I parks it like it's hot nephew, you know!"
LOL
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shit ryan you're lucky..I forgot my glasses when it was raining one night..went to get some subway...took out the curb and a chunk of my bumper FML haha
I hateeee scrapin but I loveee bein low
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Ridin' low we creepin' and crawlin'.
:)
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ryan ur too black for me to understand half of this shit u just said .. LOL
And i do i know how to take them on and off ramps outta drive wyas in wide angles. same with Speed bumps .
nothing u can do when u got a car that low .. it WILL happen .. jsut a matter of time .. unless u dont drive ur car ..
I love my bumper im slaping the Stcok supension on tomorow and see how high it sits .. until the new Suspansion gets in .
plus i still need to fix the damage once i figure the hight i want .
And i may be riding low .. but trust me no creeping and crawling for me .. jsut when i need to get over a speed bump or in and out of a drivway :PLOL
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LOL...shiiiyet!
I know it's bound to happen, I was just throwing it out there incase you weren't familiar with it. How much of a drop do you have now? And what size tires?
Mine usually scrapes here and there, but I've got it to an art form almost now. LOL
But no creeping and crawling? Seriously? That's the best part! ;D
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you guys have successfully talked me out of ever putting a kit on my car, thanks :p
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Don't be silly Kevin...you know you want one :)
Don't listen to Constantin, he's just dramatic :P lol jk
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you guys have successfully talked me out of ever putting a kit on my car, thanks :p
This thread did two good things then! ;)
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+1
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you guys have successfully talked me out of ever putting a kit on my car, thanks :p
as much as i love the Agressif low slick look of my kit .. ITS the MOST maintnance ull ever have to deall with on a car .. not like we need more off that we all drive DSM's LOL
my car is was sitting at about 2 inchs off the ground .. i put the stock ecplise suspansion and now its TOO hihg .. I look like i am lunching sitting there its so funny .. I think ill just order the mew adjustble one so i can have the best of both worlds. all i need is to gain another 1 inch maybe just a tad to clear most of the crap i scrap now adays .