British Columbia DSM
GVRD - BC DSM Club => Garage => Topic started by: Andrew Steele on February 20, 2004, 12:46:30 pm
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Go to open my door at lunch, and hear a slight crunch.
Roll down window, look out front, open the door slowly, sure enuff - there goes my fender.
Fucking POS ... :evil:
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man I truely feel bad for you. I hope your not going to school because if I were in your situation I would be screwed.
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You mean "screwed" like paying $300 for a block that's missing it's main caps?
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You mean "screwed" like paying $300 for a block that's missing it's main caps?
:shock: !!!
:laugh:
oh my.... now thats humour... anyways
Andrew, I feel for ya... I had it on both sides :(
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whats humor is that I delivered the product to robin and was inspected so where do you get off saying something like that.
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whats humor is that I delivered the product to robin and was inspected so where do you get off saying something like that.
Inspected or not, the caps are required. Are you going to refund his money or leave him hangin w/ a useless block?
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If they were required then I should have been told upon delivery and the sale wouldnt have gone through. I wont be refunding any money for the block, if I do find the caps then I will give them to him no questions asked, but I dont legally have to. I am a student with no job so 300$ is quite a bit of money to me. I can offer this to the club though if someone from the club can find someone to buy my awd 5spd tranny package for 800 then I will give andrew 150 of it.
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If they were required then I should have been told upon delivery and the sale wouldnt have gone through. I wont be refunding any money for the block, if I do find the caps then I will give them to him no questions asked, but I dont legally have to. I am a student with no job so 300$ is quite a bit of money to me. I can offer this to the club though if someone from the club can find someone to buy my awd 5spd tranny package for 800 then I will give andrew 150 of it.
look at you, Mr. Businessman
you give me a block with no main caps for $300, and then tell me that if I find someone to buy your tranny for $800 you will give me $150 back for the block? You should be a lawyer, better yet... a politician. Hell you would make an awesome next president of the united states.
I said I wanted a block with no head.... main caps are part of the block, a screwdriver in the oil pan is not, but hey, you gave me that part for free and I'm not complaining, but main caps come with a block, I didnt have time to inspect it when you dropped the block off at my house, I ASSUMED you knew what a block was, and that main caps are a part of it. Find ANY ONE PERSON that knows anything about motors that says that main caps are not a part of a block, and you can get replacements, and I will drop this whole case.
Since you did not deliver the complete product I requested for (which includes the main caps), I expect my money back. I hope you find those caps, so then it wont have to come to that, and everybody walks away happy.
Oh and for your information, yes you do legally have to give me the main caps. They are a part of the block, without them I just bought a $300 piece of metal that is completely useless....
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actually robin I was offering to give him 150 and give me nothing back that way he can still use the crank and any other parts he needs. Also I am willing to give you my big rods for $30 and you pay Andrew whatever you want. I am not a greedy person If I had 300$ to buy the block back with I would do it and most likely find my main caps in spring and build an engine but I dont have any money thats why I am selling all my parts so I can get my talon on the road and find myself a part time job until school is done.
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actually robin I was offering to give him 150 and give me nothing back that way he can still use the crank and any other parts he needs. Also I am willing to give you my big rods for $30 and you pay Andrew whatever you want. I am not a greedy person If I had 300$ to buy the block back with I would do it and most likely find my main caps in spring and build an engine but I dont have any money thats why I am selling all my parts so I can get my talon on the road and find myself a part time job until school is done.
#1- you say you did nothing wrong, if you did nothing wrong then why are you giving Andrew $150?
#2 - if youhad $300 to buy the block back you would do it and find your caps? WHY DONT YOU FIND THE MAIN CAPS FOR ME? I HAVE YOUR BLOCK AND PAID YOU $300 FOR IT!
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Robin and Mike S can share door stories now. Shitty deal man...
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because Id rather spend the 300 bucks and remain a part of this club and not have to deal with this everyday I just want to hang out here. and like I said we still have tons of snow here if by chance they are here they could pop up anytime from now till spring.
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Aaron, I've never in my life seen someone get so many chances and subsequently screw each of them up. You tried to scam money out of people and you were given another chance, again you tried to scam money and again you were given another chance and yet you still have the audacity to try and scam again. Not only that, but this time you've managed to screw the one and only guy that was defending you when everyone else wanted your head on a stick. And on top of that he STILL defended you when you were getting angry at him. You'd think the least you could do would be to get a pair of snow pants on and look for his caps.
Since this situation on its own isn't going to get any better I'm willing to go out to the Okanagan and to your house, not to kick your ass as so many would like, but to help you dig up those main caps that you say are buried under acres and acres of impenetrable snow :roll: . This way, Robin gets his main caps, and you don't get an angry brown guy from Surrey after you (note - :P ). I'm honestly sick and tired of seeing the same thing happen over and over again
Jovan
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first of all Ive never tried to scam money. If I were trying to scam money dont you think I would be gone by now. I never got mad at Robin. See what I mean you guys think Im so bad but way back in the day like 2 years ago I was 15 coming 16 and wanted to start a group buy which was really stupid at my age anyways I realized I couldnt go through with it and back out when all of you guys jump on me and accused me. So I retaliated like a stupid 15 year old. The only other screw up was Graeme and that was just a mixture of busyness and then forgetting but either way he got what he needed.(my mistake). This deal with robin was just an accident do you guys just think I would want to keep these when obviously they cant be used with any other engine? If you honestly think I dont have a acreage with shit loads of car parts on it Ill post a digital picture of my yard and all the cars around and parts. Sorry for all this.
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and Id like to say whats up with you robin you were being all good about everything one mistake ( forgot about graemes trim) your caps I didnt think were included. and you all think I should get beaten down haha its like highschool all over again. Fuck it delete my account I like the dsm community but this is bullshit.
Thats getting mad at me...
I dont care about the acerage of car parts you have, I dont need a digital pic of it..... what I would like is the main caps for this block in my mailbox as soon as possible.
You said it yourself, if you had your motor back, you would find the caps and build the motor..... meaning that you have the caps, you just havent been looking for them..... so start looking.... if you want to build your rep back just put on some snow pants and think real hard what you did with those caps after you took them off....
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man I told you Ive been looking and still am Ive pretty much covered all the area I can the rest is pretty much open field yeah there is a chance I might find them but I dont know if they are under the snow or not. Thats not getting mad thats asking why you said you were going to beat me. Didnt know you were joking around.
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I don't want to jump in to something I don't know anything about but when you sell something to somebody and forget to include something, you take care of it soon, and not on your own time a few months down the road. That was part of the deal which should have been closed when the transfer of product and money had taken place.
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You don't seem to get it. It's not just here, CA DSM has had similar run ins with you, how is it possible that so many deals have gone sour? You seem to have a fair amount of "accidents"; like the gray hound that you send your stuff on never seems to arrive. I've yet to see a deal go over smoothly with you.
The only reason you're not gone yet is because Andrew Steele has been kind enough to give you a chance over and over again because you seemed like you wanted to make things better.
Aaron, rest assured I'm going to be having a long talk with Andrew about your future on the site.
Jovan
also, thanks Robin, I was just looking at that post.
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I think I should start up a business making custom CF side fenders :D
Driver side:
A slight angle near the door to stop this issue
Stainless dump tube port-hole for dumped O2s right in front of the tire with a flapper <<<---that and a spark plug flame mod will scare the shit outa the guy you meet at the light :shock:
Ram air for the rad (fin type scoop and plumbing)
Passenger side
Ram air for the Intake (fin type straight accross from the filter -out)
A shelf to store the relocated overflow bottle. (back side of wheel)
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sorry never had a bad dealing with anyone on cadsm. One guy I didnt want to deal with got mad that I didnt send a bracket and then he would pay me. I do have the right to do that. Yeah well I sold robin that block a long time ago ( robin if he remembers can give exact date) and I thought everything was fine up until 2 weeks ago or so. If I had known he needed the main caps within a few days of drop off or even a few weeks I could have gotten him the caps but now that its months down the road they most likely have been thrown out or are sitting somewhere under the snow.
okay say someone from the board ( well respected nice guy doesnt know too much about engine rebuilds and doesnt have much money) had sold the block to robin and didnt know the caps were supposed to be included and robin didnt check to see if they were there upon delivery or even for a few months. ( Robin, Andrew informed me you didnt know you needed the main caps either!!!!) and so a few months go by and someone who does know something about engine rebuilds informs Robin he needs the caps or the block is useless. Well over months people do clean up and throw out alot of things that arent going to be used etc and so the caps could easily have been thrown out. I think you guys are just sticking together as a group when you know that this isnt even my fault. Sure the caps were needed but if you think I should have held onto them just in case well your wrong Im not a packrat and if I feel it isnt garbage I throw it out. They still may be around here somewhere because I dont remember throwing them out.
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You can get new caps and line hone the block cant you?, juat a thought
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Aaron, instead of arguing about it.........just look for the damn things first. Or atleast make an effort to find some for the block. As a seller it's your responsiblilty to atleast have some common sense and be curtious. We're all here to learn and help one another, not just sell some parts and not have any follow through when a deal goes bad. Maybe we learned something here?
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Scott Ive spent hours looking that was done without a thought. Ive read you can use main caps off other 4g63s with no problems. If this is the case then I will locate some caps and have them shipped to andrew if he agrees.
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yes you can use different caps and line and hone the block, but if it is not done properly... and it needs to be PRECISE, then you get problems like crank walk and crank spin.... nobody needs to risk those problems...
If I were to sell a block, and I wasnt sure if the caps are needed on there or if they are supposed to be taken off, I would either ASK, or leave them on there because I have no need for them, and they came with the motor. I said I wanted a block with crank... as soon as I say the word block or crank, ir pretty much means a motor with with no head, pistons, and rods..... everything else stays on... if you didnt know you should of asked somebody... or left them on since you have no use for them...
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but the reason I took them off is because you only wanted those two items and the rest was going to be built up.
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You don't seem to get it. It's not just here, CA DSM has had similar run ins with you, how is it possible that so many deals have gone sour? You seem to have a fair amount of "accidents"; like the gray hound that you send your stuff on never seems to arrive. I've yet to see a deal go over smoothly with you.
I can personally say that I have had a smooth transaction with him. I bought a dual guage pod and autometer a/f guage from him. He agreed to send the items to me first, so once i recieved the items I would pay him, because of his bad rep. I got the items as described in the amount of time that was agreed on. Items worked perfectly so then I payed him. I also have another deal pending with him right now, unless he's forgotten. Again I am waiting for the item before i send payment.
However just because I have had a good transaction doesn't cancle out all the bad transactions, and definitly doesn't forgive for this situation. However, I don't feel that it is my place to get in to the middle of this whole drama subject. I do feel bad for Robin though, hopefully you get what you deserve in the end Robin (your caps).
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back on topic, Steele man, check your caps and your ISC, cause you got all the other problems :( Those are the only real common things to go left.
Good news is, soon, you will have a new car, once you fix it all. :)
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but the reason I took them off is because you only wanted those two items and the rest was going to be built up.
but the caps are a part of the block... and I cant build up any other caps, I need the stock ones...
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plus with the caps that came with it Robin didnt hve to shell out for an align bore/hone at a machine shop. That aint cheap.
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Back to the original topic of this thread......... Happy to hear you fixed your door/fender problem today. You too Jovan! I say you guys should skip the new hinges and look into the Lambo door mod. I'd be in for a group buy!!
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that is one ricer mod that I want someday for sure...
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Lambo Doors...... :D
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That sucks Andrew... :(
Now that mine's fixed I think the problem might not be only the hinges but that the plastic trim on the door comes a little loose and sticks out fom the door, closing the gap and crunching the fender.
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That sucks Andrew... :(
Now that mine's fixed I think the problem might not be only the hinges but that the plastic trim on the door comes a little loose and sticks out fom the door, closing the gap and crunching the fender.
Well, learned a lot on Sat. Jovan and I tried bending his hinges back in, we tried swapping the hinges from upper to lower, etc etc - only thing that really worked was bending the fender out past the door's pathway IN when opened. It's a temporary, yet very effective fix. I've got my hinges on order from Vancouver Mitsu, so we'll see on Wednesday when the hinges come in.
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My k car used to do this really badly too.
I fixed it with a nice firm boot to the passenger side fender.
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is this a 92-94 issue only?